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[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If protests aren't enough to sway a democratic system, then the democratic system is broken and resistance becomes mandatory. To quote what the german constitution established after Hitler to prevent exactly what's currently happening again in the US:

Article 20 [Constitutional principles - Right of resistance]

[...]

(4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.

I do not know if there's something akin to this in the US constitution (I know your culture very much thinks there is every time it's about guns though). But even if it isn't, fuck it. The system is evidently broken, do what's necessary to regain the power of the people. Do it the French way if you must.

[–] borokov@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In US, I think it was the initial intent of 2nd amendment. Arm the population not to resist an enemy or an invasion, but to resist its own government if it endanger a free state.

[–] xXSirDanglesXx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well with ±400 million guns circulating nationwide, and one in three people are gun owners, consider how many of them would use them in defense of the current government now. There's a reason behind allowing 2A to go unchecked, when in the time it was written, it made sense. Now it's a civilian army that, while keeping the population divided, a not insubstantial percentage will blindly defend any unjust actions this government decides to perpetrate.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

This. This kind of unchecked gun permissions only elevate the necessary revolt to a civil war. It doesn't help fighting against regimes, on the contrary; it makes the fight extremely bloody. Those who wrote it in 17-something couldn't know that, in the future, it will be the very fascist supporters who are the most heavily armed.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

(4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.

Wow I love this.