that'll be in 3 years; 10 years and they'll be grifting on twitter going "I left the left because the tankies were mean to me, that's why I'm a neocon now"

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

https://old.reddit.com/r/Anarchy4Everyone/comments/1in78oa/anyone_want_to_do_some_praxis_and_buy_tankie/mc9f1dv/

They're now trawling through commenters' profiles to find an epic logic own which proves they're tankies. This is the above comment which is very tankie:

EVs also really play to China's strengths in that they have a much lower barrier to entry than internal combustion cars which require significantly more R&D. Instead anyone can slap a battery and electric motors onto a chassis, so now Chinese EVs can compete on price and features. Given the extremely efficient supply chain and manufacturing industry China has, this means they can outcompete on both high end luxury EVs and extremely cheap workhorse EVs.

I completely agree that they're going to have a hard right pivot to some kind of nationalist right-wing ideology. Ten years is too optimistic. Five at most. They're already halfway there and just need that final push of other anarchists saying "you're weird". This thread could even be that moment for them since most of the replies are calling out how nonsensical they are.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

anyone can slap a battery and electric motors onto a chassis

damn man tell me you don't know anything about EVs without telling me

In the past decade, EV makers have had to invent new chemistry and they still haven't fully cracked the nut of putting enough power into a lightweight enough battery to compete with a tank of gas. I'm fully on board with EVs as they exist now (but of course mass transit would be even better), but for the average consumer in America they're still just not good enough, which was why the extremely low price on some Chinese cars was such an exciting development.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's sort of how it started though, I remember as a kid seeing electric 3 wheel minivans and minitrucks and mopeds chugging along in the bike lanes carrying families and produce. Those really were just batteries, motor, chassis, and sheet metal/plastic shell, they had shitty motors and a range of like 80km at the time, which was fine if you just needed to make a trip in the city (and more importantly, they were cheap). The rapid advances in battery chemistry came about almost 2 decades later.

Chinese ICE engines have also gotten a lot better, but it took much longer considering how long companies like BYD were in the game making licensed versions of Toyotas but becoming EV powerhouses in the span of a decade.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You never know, in 10 years they could be tankies themselves. I say this as a Marxist-Leninist former radlib who just needed some time to purge the last of his brainworms.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think its possible, since I took a similar path, but I never had that tier of brainworms, it was radlibbery to syndicalism to ML. This person seems a little too deep in the propaganda, but everyone grows as a person differently so its hard to speculate.