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submitted 10 months ago by arisu_exe@rqd2.net to c/general@burggit.moe

I don't know how many people here support radqueers, and if you don't you can just block or defederate us, but my Lemmy instance here at rqd2.net opened up last night! If you wanna discuss transids, paras, or anything else stigmatized, this is the place to do it! You can sign up if you want, but we currently federate with burggit.moe, so you can participate in our communities from your instance! See you there? :)

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[-] shani66@burggit.moe 8 points 10 months ago

That's, uh, kinda problematic wtf

[-] Mousepad@burggit.moe 5 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure to what extent pro-c people actually do any c-ing versus just believing that it should be legal. Does anyone know?

I don't agree with pro-c'ers, but I'm not sure to what extent the latter is problematic. I guess being "problematic" is subjective, so anything you strongly disagree with is then "problematic." From a more objective perspective, though, the latter does not cause any harm*, so I wouldn't call it that.

*There is a caveat here: perhaps being vocally pro-c would encourage others to actually c. I don't know. ablobthinking

[-] PinkBow@burggit.moe 3 points 10 months ago
[-] Mousepad@burggit.moe 3 points 10 months ago

For the lazy, I guess this passage is why the page was linked:

It is believed that all or most pro-contact individuals are actively seeking CSAM/CSEM or sexual/romantic relationships with young people. In reality, many separate their ideology and what they believe to be a reasonable course of action for the present. Some pro-contacts refrain from predatory behavior because they do not want to risk legal or social repercussions, although they support decriminalization and destigmatization of such actions. Some refrain because they believe that in a society which criminalizes or stigmatizes such behavior, youth will likely be harassed and maltreated by authority figures or other members of their social circle if an older individual's sexual involvement with them is found out. Some pro-contacts believe that in a society which criminalizes or stigmatizes such behavior, disapproving outsiders will likely "gaslight" a youth into retroactively considering the relationship or interactions abusive and traumatic, or cause pressure which makes it difficult for the older party to carry out a healthy relationship, so they do not see it as "worth the trouble." Other pro-contacts are not personally interested in CSAM/CSEM or relationships with young people, but still believe other people should be permitted to carry out such behavior. Just because someone does not plan on sexually or romantically engaging with youth does not mean that they are necessarily anti-contact.

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