The majority of the working class is in the service industry in the imperial core and thst means we service 9-5 workers and cause I'm busy at work doing that evenings and weekends, I can't go a meeting. Going to a fucking DIY show is a ticket master expense in lost wages. My 6pm is midnight and that's true for a shitload of people who represent the current working class. It's enough of a pain in my ass I've gotta run my errands before work. I can't be heard cause I've gotta work whenever the floor is open.

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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

that's good but it's insufficient and still denies the chance for input, which could be accommodated in a variety of ways including a meeting at late o'clock once in a while

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Here's my main thing, I used to be a night owl, and would be frustrated by how things would shut down even in the big city I live in, when I was still wanting to go out and do stuff.

Then I got old. Real old. Now, I'm tucked into bed at 11pm.

I also organized meetups and group stuff back in the day and the rule of thumb was that you'd get around 20% of RSVPs to show up. So you'd get 100 RSVPs and 20 would show up.

I had a political group that would happen every week on Tuesday, and yes it was all 9-5 workers, but we'd all be done and out by like 9pm, and this was at a bar during a weeknight.

So I'm just being realistic that it's hard to do in person organizing for "normal" hours.

I mean honestly if you want a group that works for these late shift, you probably need to organize your workplace, but I didn't want to open with that reply because it's a bit glib