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Why is it bible-thumpers who are always so against socialised healthcare and welfare? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 week ago by DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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It's always puzzled me and reading a thread on reddit just how has reignited that puzzlement. Someone on reddit asked people opposed to universal healthcare to explain why and the conservatives in the thread have given reasons like they don't want to wait their turn for treatment, and that people don't have an intrinsic right to live, along with the usual "WHY shOUld i PAy fOR YouR HealTHcarE?"

Christians seem to lead the charge with objections such as these. And in my experience of asking for help accessing food, Christians were the cruellest and the least likely to help.

I just don't understand how someone claims to follow Jesus but holds beliefs like this. When Jesus handed out the loaves and fishes, did he check everyone's employment and tax status first, and only feed those who were working and paying tax? When he healed the sick and disabled, did he make sure they had health insurance first and refuse to treat those who couldn't pay?

What makes these people such incredible hypocrites?

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[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think you are over generalizing. You should not gage your opinion on a group of people based on an anonymous Reddit post. There are plenty of Christians out there who do great work and provide crucial resources where states fail. I’ve worked with tons of churches who do far more in feeding and caring for their community than any DSA chapter.

[–] DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am not basing it on that alone. I also have my own personal experience of repeatedly begging multiple Christian organisations for food aid and not only being turned away but insulted too.

[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn that’s just terrible. I’m sorry you experienced that.

[–] DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

They told me things like I shouldn't even be getting disability benefits anyway because "that's socialism." One told me "Man up and sort your own problems out." When I told them I was so desperate for food that I had been shoplifting, multiple of them told me that I need to turn myself in for shoplifting, take my punishment and repent or I would go to hell. The only one who even tried to help gave me the phone number for a food bank - 200 miles away. When I pointed out that I don't drive and have no money for transport he said something to the effect of if I'm that desperate for food then I'll find a way to get there. Several said they would pray for me but did nothing to actually help. On a huge online Christian forum when I posted my story and asked for help, multiple people there sent me online blessings that they had to pay for, but did nothing to help. That was a real slap in the face, they'll waste money on this stupid site and flaunt that wasted money in front of me while I go hungry.

If I hadn't found hexbear's mutual aid I don't know if I'd still be here now.

[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

To be frank, I've had run-ins with different types of Christians too and most of them are exactly like a reddit post comment section. It rarely ever happens that Christians actually know and practice what their stated belief entails (caring for one another, mutual aid, solidarity etc), I don't think OP is over-generalizing. For a religion which was based on solidarity and rebellion and resistance against oppression, it sure seems like they are mostly concerned with their own wealth, wishes, and well-being. (There's always exceptions to the rule, naturally.)