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$150 billion: that’s the grand total of savings Elon Musk revealed last Thursday that he and his DOGE team are “expecting” to make after months of ruthless and often mindless cuts.

To call this a monumentally unimpressive number doesn’t do it justice. Musk’s “savings” here — which are already error-ridden and inflated in the first place, created by totaling up spending that never actually existed or that was, alternately, either already cut or never actually was — represent just 15% of the trillion dollars he originally promised he would slash.

In fact, government spending so far under Donald Trump has actually gone up compared to the last two years under Joe Biden.

“Musk will have effectively crippled the modern American state and ripped vital services away from ordinary Americans in order to pay for more waste at the Pentagon.”

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[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm possibly more worried about what he didn't destroy at this point. What's gone will at least be rebuilt largely from scratch by people that care about restoring those institutions.

My huge worry now is what backdoors are now in systems like social security that impacts us all and we may not find out about for a long time. How much identity theft and scamming will go on now that outside actors likely have access to some or all of that data?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security

Every. Fucking. Thing that doge touched has been backdoored to Russia. Doge is a front to get sensitive information to the Kremlin. Elon is a fucking traitor.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly, and once I read this yesterday I allowed myself to rule out that I was just thinking the worst.

Daniel Bertulis appeared on The Lead, joined by his attorney Andrew Bakaj, and explained the details of how he apparently uncovered a massive amount of missing data from the NLRB following DOGE’s efforts. He ostensibly mocked a White House statement touting the transparency at play, noting that none of the code used by DOGE technicians has been shared publicly.

But the most shocking allegations came from Bakaj, who not only claimed that accounts based in Russia were using newly created DOGE usernames and passwords to access sensitive data, but also directly tied the effort to Elon Musk and his Starlink concerns, which has a relationship with the Kremlin.

“There are two data points that I wanna point out that should give everybody pause,” Bakaj said. “The first thing, what Dan witnessed was that within 15 minutes of DOGE employees creating user accounts, i.e. Usernames and passwords, within 15 minutes of those accounts being created, somebody or something from Russia tried to log in with the right username and right passwords — that is to say — the right credentials. And that happened over 20 times.”

“The second data point, which is really critical, is that DOGE has also been using Starlink as a means to exfiltrate data,” he continued. “What that means is that, from our understanding, Russia has a direct pipeline of information through Starlink, which means that anything going through Starlink is going to Russia.”

I think I got this link from some Lemmy post yesterday, and I don't like that I don't know the source, but it seems to fit what is being talked about in regular mainstream reporting.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The whistleblower and his lawyer were on Rachel Maddow if you want a more reputable source. He also said that they taped a picture of him walking his dog to his door that was taken via drone as a sort of threat.

https://youtu.be/DLPL0MZ7aVQ

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Appreciate that! Was good to hear it right from them.

[–] SabinStargem 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We will need a whole new SSA computer system, just to kill this question dead. Same goes for EVERY department. Some 20 years from now, I guess DOGE would have fulfilled its original mission of updating American computer infrastructure, in the most stupid and malicious way possible.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

SS numbers seemed compromised enough pre-Musk. I feel we should all get a new one that isn't just tossed blindly onto any form we have to fill out on a daily basis.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They increased the budget of the Pentagon. You should be worried about where the funds are being moved-to

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The military budget doesn't seem to have gone up by anything that hasnt been trending the last decade or 2, and despite all the talk about going to fight other countries, I don't think there is enough support for anything other than Iran, and even that I dont think would be done directly by the US military.

I do worry more about a more internally agro surveillance state, but with facial recognition and a camera on every doorbell, I think we've already long traded privacy for security. I keep learning about previous rebellions and having covert places to gather, plan, and stage have really been crucial, and I don't know how one does that in the modern world.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You're being defeatist. There's not cameras everywhere. There are loads of blind spots, even in major cities.

It's a fact that the majority of square feet in the US has places where there are no cameras compared to where there are cameras.

There are groups that map this. You can help identity the cameras on OSM.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't feel defeatist. I think my feelings on America as a whole are higher than many I've been seeing here. But tech has come a long way since a lot of these types of movements have taken place.

I love getting inspiration from people like the Maroons the bands of people hiding out in huge areas of Appalachia before the Civil War and others, but stuff like thermal optics and night vision and whatever other stuff the military and even local police likely have these days is pretty intimidating. It's also way quicker and stealthier to deploy. There's license plate readers that can grab the plates of anyone driving to a protest and databases of faces, etc.

I'm not as tech savvy as maybe a lot of you are so I don't know real life limitations of all this stuff or how to avoid it, and I just keep it in mind.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Use drones. Use public transportation. Use cash. Use Tor.

The power has always been asymmetric, but many advancements in technology actually help resistance of the oppressed more than the oppressors.