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[–] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Does therapy actually help you if you know what your problem is? Also knowing that they're talking to you because it's their job feels like the whole thing is a lie and a waste of time.

[–] SpongyAneurism@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does therapy actually help you if you know what your problem is?

Yes, then you're already steps ahead. For some people, figuring out what the problem is, already takes therapy, but it doesn't end there. If you know, what the problem is and know how to fix it, you probably don't need therapy. But if you know what's wrong but can't fix it alone, that's what therapy is for.

Also knowing that they're talking to you because it's their job feels like the whole thing is a lie and a waste of time.

Only if you somehow follow the idea, that the therapist has to like you. That is not the case. It is their job and that's okay. You're also just talking to them because it's their job. Why would you open up to a stranger otherwise?

I mean you should get along together somehow, but you don't have to be friends with your therapist.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Also one might be aware of the problem but not actually understand the underlying causes.

One can be a bloody genious and still be unable to self-rationalize one's way out of certain negative behaviours because they're driven by things at an emotional level (fear, pleasure, habit, need for approval, low self-esteem and so on), because they became entrenched as behavioural patterns when one was too young to understand any of it (as a child or teenager - it's not by chance that a lot of Psychology "blames" one's parents) and because without the distancing that comes from looking at it from the outside with no interest in seeing certain things rather than others (it's generally emotionally unpleasent to notice and admit that certain elements of one's personality are negative) it's extremelly hard to spot certain things which for an observant trained independent outsider are very obvious.

Also I totally agree that one shouldn't be going into it wanting the therapist to like you: people who worry about the impression they make on the therapist are likely not being fully open and honest about themselves to him or her, which kinda defeats the point of going to theraphy (if one was 100% perfect and all qualities, why go to theraphy).

Me when I explain to my therapist what vore is cus its crucial to the session for whatever reason:

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In fact, the more successfully smart you are and perceived as intelligent, the more likely it is you need therapy deeply

[–] bilouba@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on this claim?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm curious about that too.

My life experience includes environments (Physics at University level) with a significant number of exceptionally intelligent people and in my observation they weren't any more "flawed" than everybody else, just with different quirks than most people.

Granted "smart and perceived as intelligent" isn't actually the same as high IQ, but I've also worked in environments with lots of people like that (Investment banking) and again they weren't any more "flawed" than everybody else and just had different kinds of quirks than most people.

In general, one thing I did notice was that more intelligent people tend to have more "compensation layers" over their disfunctions than less intelligent people.

That said, all this is my opinion from my own life experience, so just as unsupported as the previous poster's.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That's just self sabotage talking. Knowing about a problem is step one and it's what gets you in the door.

Just because you know you've got a broken pipe doesn't mean you don't need a plumber, just because you know your car is broken doesn't mean you don't need a mechanic, etc. There's nothing wrong with someone helping you being a job. That doesn't mean they won't do that job.

The main point of therapy is to get you to look at your circumstances in different ways and provide you with coping skills you may not necessarily have developed. You may even be unaware of whatever current maladaptive coping mechanisms you've built up over years of just trying to survive. This is where outside professional perspective comes in handy.

However! That's not to say therapy is a bulletproof process or that all therapists are good or that every therapist is a good fit for every person. I would liken it to finding your preferred barber or massage therapist or something. Sometimes you just got to try options till something works.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. I knew (or at least thought I knew) what my problems were but needed help with figuring out what to do about them. Finally started seeing someone to help me with that and they did.

About it feeling fake: It's their job to help, but I did feel the same at first and told them so. That helped them understand me better.

[–] Barometer3689@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago

Emotional problems often require solutions that work on the emotion level. In my experience, trying to self it yourself sets you up to try to solve it with rationality. But that often does not work, because the problem is not rational in nature.

This is where a therapist helps. It helps you to solve the problem at the emotional level. That is something a person cannot do by themselves. Asking for help is way easier than trying to do it all yourself.

I personally benefit a lot from https://healthygamer.gg/ as a stopgap measure. I still needed actual therapy, but this helped me through the rough times.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Most of my clients know why they are coming, it’s childhood (or other) trauma. That doesn’t mean they don’t get to have new insights on the topic. Also, while we talk, that’s not my main modality. We do EMDR and similar therapies that actually help people process the trauma. I’ve seen it change lives.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Depending on the problem or rather on your model of the psyche. If you are following a depth analytical approach then you need therapy to reenact your problematic relationships or traumatic events in a healing relationship with another person to integrate them into your conscious self even if you already are fully aware of them.

[–] skoell13@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yes it actually helps to talk about it and get some outside views onto the topic. Even if you know your issues and possible solutions just talking about it makes one 'more aware' of it.

Think of it similar when studying for a math exam. Looking at a solution and saying to yourself "ahh yes, I know that and that's how I would also do it" is different from just trying it yourself.

And yes it's the other person's job but they also want to help, that's why they chose this career. In Germany there are also a few sessions in the beginning just to check if the patient and therapist are 'compatible', because if the patient doesn't feel safe then it doesn't help as much.