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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 81 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lol, we aren't going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren't rare because they're only located in isolated places, they're rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.

The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven't invested in.

The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a "win" when in reality it's not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it's nothing but smoke and mirrors.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 15 points 18 hours ago

Ukraine doesn't even have significant rare earth deposits. Nothing worth mining.

However, those aren't the only thing in the deal. Bunch of other minerals are in there, and oil and natural gas.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

In that case, looks like Zelenskyy had the cards.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m aware, but they’re also unfortunately rare in the US, and we need batteries if we don’t maintain a good trade relationship with China.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago

America actually has plenty of rare earth deposits, it's just not profitable to mine them and then build facilities to refine them.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 25 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 9 points 17 hours ago

Typical Trump deal: nothing substantial, but he loudly claims credit for it anyway.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

If peace is reached and maintained. If Russia doesn't get all of Ukraine, how long is it going to be until they invade again? No one is going to want to invest in building a mine with that hanging over it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't really matter. Trump got a deal. In Donnie's diseased mind, it doesn't matter what it says, only that it exists.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago

It all makes sense when you realize he's a trust-fund idiot cosplaying as a businessman.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 day ago

It still needs to be ratified in UA, AFAIK.