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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Downvote me if you must, but idiots like this won't internalise the lesson until their parents, partners, sons, and daughters die in ICE custody.

The same way that the vaccine conspiracists won't learn until they watch their unvaccinated child shrivel and perish from a horrific and completely preventable disease.

The memory of the suffering has to live on in people's minds by having permanent consequences etched in the blood of unfortunate innocents as APPARENTLY we're on average to fucking dumb as a species to remember otherwise!

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There was recently a story of someone whose kid died of measles, but they were still anti-vax in the interviews afterwards.

There are two main ways people change their mind. One is in-group pressure. If your friends and trusted people are telling you a thing, you'll probably believe it. None of us are immune to this. Who you consider part of your in-group varies- some people fall for celebrity endorsements more than others, or view bad sources like Fox News as trustworthy.

The other thing that can change people's minds is trauma. If you've been an anti-climate-change guy and your house gets destroyed by a freak super hurricane, you might reevaluate. Maybe. Of if a big KKK guy gets hit by a car and left a dead, and a black guy saves your life, they might reevaluate.

But there's no guarantee.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Don't expect that group shit to work... they'll still ignore it.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Downvote me if you must, but idiots like this won’t internalise the lesson until their parents, partners, sons, and daughters die in ICE custody.

You're a bit optimistic. IMO most of them won't ever internalize the lesson. Anti-vaxxers interviewed after their child has died have consistently said that they still wouldn't allow their children to be vaccinated because they, "don't trust what is put in the vaccines."

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Those people should be charged with something and locked up so they don't do it again. Fucking kids up is inexcusable.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

a month ago my last hope for magatards redemption died when a couple who killed their kid by not vaccinating them, STILL blamed everyone else but themselves

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The same way that the vaccine conspiracists won’t learn until they watch their unvaccinated child shrivel and perish from a horrific and completely preventable disease.

You're wrong: they don't learn either. Humans have an incredible capacity to not learn shit. Let's empathize with them: just kidding!