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[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wonder if this will turn the EU away from the US or the exact opposite. I would think the exact opposite

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I'd argue that the liberal world order is having its Sino-Soviet moment. If Trump actually does this, the EU will have little choice but to increase trade with China to keep their economy afloat. The trans-Atlantic rift is widening by the day, and Europe does not have many options left.

[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The difference is that europe is ruled by a bunch of compradors, publicly they will condemn US but behind closed doors they will fold and their foreign policy won't stray 1cm away from washington line

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The problem there is the growing political unrest across Europe, as the material conditions continue to decline it's becoming harder for them to keep a lid on things. A huge cost of living increase will have major political consequences.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah but looking at them, they would prefer to lose to an open fascists than to move a single inch from their political line. Those consequences would not hurt them personally, even in worst case they will just cash in their comprador money and move somewhere. It's modus operandi repeated many times before.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 15 hours ago

That's what I expect will happen, open fascism is the most likely path for Europe at this point.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 27 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The trans-Atlantic relationship had the unfortunate coincidence of having the word trans in it, so the new US regime had no choice but to consider it woke. too-woke-1

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

God I hope he does it, but the problem is he flip-flops every fucking week.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 16 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Please china, come build high speed rail in Europe, I'm begging

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 6 points 16 hours ago

Please China send Chengdu J-36 to Brussels. The people of this continent yearn for freedom

[–] determinism2@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 19 hours ago

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[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago

laughs in Spanish (as long as your destination/departure is Madrid)