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[–] JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They make one request per IP. Rate limit per IP does nothing.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, one request, then the next IP doing one and so on, rotating? I mean, they don't have unlimited adresses. Is there no way to group them together to a observable group, to set quotas? I mean, in the purpose of defense against AI-DDOS and not just for hurting them.

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's always Anubis 🤷

Anyway, what if they are backed by some big Chinese corporation with some /32 ipv6 and some /16 ipv4? It's not that unreasonable

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No, I don't think blocking IP ranges will be effective (except in very specific scenarios). See this comment referencing a blog post about this happening and the traffic was coming from a variety of residential IP allocations. https://lemm.ee/comment/20684186

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

my point was that even if they don't have unlimited ips they might have a lot of them, especially if its ipv6, so you couldn't just block them. but you can use anubis that doesn't rely on ip filtering

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

You're right, and Anubis was the solution they used. I just wanted to mention the IP thing because you did is all.

I hadn't heard about Anubis before this thread. It's cool! The idea of wasting some of my "resources" to get to a webpage sucks, but I guess that's the reality we're in. If it means a more human oriented internet then it's worth it.