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We are all performing a thought exercise with the presumption Reddit’s goal was to come to a mutually beneficial understanding with third party apps. The proposed solutions are fundamentally misunderstanding Reddit’s intent.
Reddit doesn’t want to find a way to be paid by the apps. They want to kill the apps. Any compromise measure is counterproductive to that goal.
The excuses that Reddit gives are not meant for people like us. The excuses don’t hold up to scrutiny but they were never meant to. The excuses are so that people who are only tangentially plugged in see a headline like above, scroll past without reading about it, and subconsciously just accept it.
Agreed, the arguments don't hold up to any critical thinking because they're not supposed to. This is just the most PR friendly way to funnel all users through the main app. Look on Reddit proper and you get tons of people saying "What's the big idea, it doesn't affect me, I use the main app" and scroll past
Something that a lot of “power user” types aren’t ready to hear is that a huge amount of redditors won’t be affected. Power users avoided r/all like the plague, and I’m sure that I’m not unique among power users in having a very curated feed, but that dismisses that there are legions of people who open the official app, browse r/all, and consider that the experience.
When power users say “but where will Reddit’s content come from if we leave?” I don’t think they understand the situation. r/all is the home of reposts, Twitter screenshots, and political ragebait. Actual quality content creators are not needed. If all personally made original content disappeared from Reddit, a huge chunk of redditors would never notice.
I count myself among such “power users” and like to think I made good original content, but I have to come to grips with the fact that Reddit Inc no longer has use for me.
Same boat. There was a time I used to enjoy going there, but it's become an unhealthy addiction. Playing on my serotonin and dopamine, and I'm cutting it out, this is just a good excuse to.
The interesting thing is that they have critical mass and decided it was worth cutting off these users, but (and maybe this is arrogance), but the internet has always followed where the power users are. They are the ones who started back with MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Google+ (didn't say they were all successful but hey), Discord, Digg and Reddit.
Not all of them panned out, but all of the big networks started with core power users embracing a platform of dedicated users who evangelized their platforms to get other people to join.
The big social medias are seeing what happens when those dedicated users give up and start leaving, the content dries up, and you can only rely on shill posts for so long
The same with all those major sites: it stopped being about community at some point and became about engagement, because that drives data points which makes them money.
Reddit has been an unhealthy place for a long time with numerous incidents where the admins haven't acted out of moral choices but in the a way that is least damaging to engagement and the brand
Reading this whole comment thread felt therapeutic somehow. You all get it.
More to the point, you get a lot of people who are just barely above the threshold of tech illiteracy who think reddit is an app and don't get the concept of a website having an API that multiple apps can access. There needs to be a better term for Eternal September.
I’ve seen people say there are people who think Reddit is just an app, but I’ve never seen people actually say that. I believe it possible, just have never seen it.
People think "the cloud" is some mystical arbitrary thing never truly thinking about how much data they've handed over