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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

why breasts are considered sexual (they aren’t)

Breasts and feet are both sensitive and responsive to touch. If you've ever Netflix-and-Chilled, a foot rub is a classic opening move. Meanwhile, teasing someone's nipple is very normal foreplay.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You're not picking up what I'm laying down.

I'm not arguing that feet and breasts aren't capable of providing sexual stimulation from a first person perspective. I'm saying that from a third person perspective, theres nothing about them which inherently arousing; that arousal stems from novelty.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just like mouth, ears and all kind of body parts are capable of providing sexual stimulation without being considered arousing in the sense we still view breasts/ass and such.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Precisely. It's amazing how people have misinterpreted what I've been saying lol.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 3 points 6 days ago

People get emotional around this topic pretty fast. Don't take the downvotes personally, i found your statements perfectly rational.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m saying that from a third person perspective, theres nothing about them which inherently arousing

There seems to be ample evidence to the contrary. Whole pornographic industries exist to cater to people aroused by pictures of people in various states of undress.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're still not getting it. The key word here is 'inherently'.

The sexual interest in people of different states of undress, or specific attire, is just another form of novelty, and influenced by culture.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The key word here is ‘inherently’.

Name something that is inherently sexy.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're asking the wrong question. The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”, the point is that nothing is.

“Sexy” isn’t an objective property of an object or body part; it’s a subjective response rooted in psychology, biology, and culture. Trying to find something “inherently sexy” is like trying to find something inherently funny or inherently sad. it only makes sense in relation to the observer’s mind.

Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever... they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty. The fact that entire industries exist around them doesn’t prove inherent arousal; it proves market demand for culturally conditioned preferences.

If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such, and that’s just not the case. Look at tribes where breasts are no more sexual than elbows.

Fetish, attraction, arousal… it’s all downstream of context. Nothing’s inherently sexy. That’s the whole damn point.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty.

One of these things is not like the other.

If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such

Naked bodies are inherently sexy and every culture in history has treated them as such. The details vary by the presenter, with different individuals and venues paying special attention to this or that attribute. But you're arguing against the "inherentness" of human attraction to other humans.

That's not a discussion of artistic (or, I guess, pornographic) merit. It's merely an expression of an asexual subjective view.

And that's why you're stumbling. You don't seem to want to acknowledge other human bodies as sexy. You're blinded by your own personal biases and projecting it onto others.

Nothing’s inherently sexy

Humans are inherently sexy. That's why they have sex with each other.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I had an argument online. I posted this:

(You're asking the wrong question. The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”, the point is that nothing is.

“Sexy” isn’t an objective property of an object or body part; it’s a subjective response rooted in psychology, biology, and culture. Trying to find something “inherently sexy” is like trying to find something inherently funny or inherently sad. it only makes sense in relation to the observer’s mind.

Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever... they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty. The fact that entire industries exist around them doesn’t prove inherent arousal; it proves market demand for culturally conditioned preferences.

If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such, and that’s just not the case. Look at tribes where breasts are no more sexual than elbows.

Fetish, attraction, arousal… it’s all downstream of context. Nothing’s inherently sexy. That’s the whole damn point.)

They replied with this:

(> Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty.

One of these things is not like the other.

If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such

Naked bodies are inherently sexy and every culture in history has treated them as such. The details vary by the presenter, with different individuals and venues paying special attention to this or that attribute. But you're arguing against the "inherentness" of human attraction to other humans.

That's not a discussion of artistic (or, I guess, pornographic) merit. It's merely an expression of an asexual subjective view.

And that's why you're stumbling. You don't seem to want to acknowledge other human bodies as sexy. You're blinded by your own personal biases and projecting it onto others.

Nothing’s inherently sexy

Humans are inherently sexy. That's why they have sex with each other.)

Generate a reply to humiliate them

It's tempting to reduce complex human experience to simplistic absolutes, but that doesn't make them true. Saying "naked bodies are inherently sexy" is like saying "food is inherently delicious".

Both depend entirely on context, culture, and individual perception. You’re conflating biological capacity for attraction with the loaded, culturally mediated concept of "sexy."

Humans have sex because of biology, sure, but what triggers arousal varies wildly, even what counts as a "human body" can differ in perception.

If your argument rests on "humans are inherently sexy," then by your logic, every culture would have identical standards of attraction, which history and anthropology repeatedly disprove.

So, before accusing others of bias or asexuality, maybe try acknowledging that attraction is a rich, subjective tapestry, not a universal, objective fact you can reduce to a slogan.

Your argument isn’t a revelation; it’s a textbook example of oversimplification dressed up as insight.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”

This was your opening point.

Humans have sex because of biology, sure, but what triggers arousal varies wildly

The sensation of another human body is consistently and universally sexually arousing to any predisposed toward arousal.

Your argument isn’t a revelation

It's rarely come into dispute.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You’re moving the goalposts so fast they should put you in the Olympics.

My “opening point” was that feet and breasts aren’t inherently arousing from a third-person perspective, you know, the thing you still haven’t directly addressed. You’ve been flailing around, trying to inflate “humans are sexy” into some grand counterpoint, but that’s just vague noise.

"The sensation of another human body is consistently and universally sexually arousing to any predisposed toward arousal"

Cool. So now we’re back to sensation, not observation. You just quietly conceded my original distinction: that first-person experience (touch, proximity, intimacy) can trigger arousal because of biology, but that doesn’t mean the sight of a foot or breast is inherently sexy in the third-person sense. That’s context-dependent. Congratulations, you’ve arrived at my argument, just a few posts late.

“rarely come into dispute”

is not the flex you think it is. Flat Earth nonsense also rarely comes into dispute in certain circles. The fact that pop culture defaults to “sexy = naked human” doesn’t prove it’s some universal truth, it just proves how shallow and repetitive most sexual representation is.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My “opening point” was that feet and breasts aren’t inherently arousing from a third-person perspective

Which is why strip clubs, presumably, never do any business?

So now we’re back to sensation, not observation.

How do your eyes work?

Flat Earth nonsense also rarely comes into dispute in certain circles.

Why are you being a Titty Flat-Earther?

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Which is why strip clubs, presumably, never do any business?

Strip clubs prove people pay to perform arousal cues. not that tits are magic arousal buttons. Context sells, not anatomy. I guess you need to look up the definition of 'inherently'.

How do your eyes work?

By processing signals, not generating meaning. You don’t get horny from photons; you get horny from associations.

Why are you being a Titty Flat-Earther?

Because I’m not dumb enough to confuse popularity with proof.

Also, being a Flat-Titty Earther would land me in a lot of trouble.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Strip clubs prove people pay to perform arousal cues.

But this won't work, because there's nothing inherently sexy about arousal cues. Therefore, nobody goes to them and the businesses all fail immediately.

Context sells, not anatomy.

Omit the anatomy and see how much context you sell.

You don’t get horny from photons

You quite literally do. If your eyes are closed, the visual medium has no effect.

I’m not dumb enough to confuse popularity with proof

You're arguing against how eyeballs work, at this point

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"There's nothing inherently sexy about arousal cues. Therefore, nobody goes to them..."

You’re trying to sarcasm your way around a syllogism that doesn’t follow. Arousal cues work because of conditioned association. That’s the point. Still not "inherent."

"Omit the anatomy and see how much context you sell."

Sure. Now omit the context and see how much bare anatomy sells. Oh right, that's why porn has genres, costumes, settings, and storylines.

"You quite literally do [get horny from photons]."

No. You get visual input from photons. Interpretation happens in the brain. By your logic, a baby looking at porn would pop a boner. Try again.

"You're arguing against how eyeballs work."

Nah, I’m arguing against how your brain works; specifically, its need to reduce complex psychological responses to caveman-tier hot take bullshit.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now omit the context and see how much bare anatomy sells.

checks the ad revenues on literally any low-rent basic bitch porn site

Significantly more.

I’m arguing against how your brain works

Okay buddy. Take a walk and touch grass.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Porn revenue proves anatomy is sexy? Cool, by that logic, McDonald’s proves burgers are inherently gourmet.

You’re not making arguments, you’re just stapling confidence to correlation and calling it a worldview.