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That's much better.
Needs Colorado on there somewhere too. That place is a blue oasis surrounded by a sea of red bullshit states on all sides.
They elected Hoedirt Boebert... no entry.
You say "they" as if states don't have different districts. Boebert came from a right-leaning district, but was so toxic she couldn't get re-elected there. So she had to move to an even more right district in order to win.
Add to that she's actually a transplant from Florida, and it starts to make sense.
Yeah. Her saying "don't you know who I am!?" and flipping off the workers after getting kicked out for refusing to stop vaping indoors and near pregnant women and performing public sexual acts at a musical where kids were in attendance... That's pure Florida.
And New Mexico! Please don't leave us with those shitheads.
I guess we could go to Mexico and take Colorado with us. The border can cross us again.
Not to the south, NM is just as blue if not more so.
If I recall new Mexico is the only state that had a full Democrat victory this last election with not one republican winning a single seat so pretty blue
I propose we get CO and they can have WI, MI and PA
Considering them petitioning to leave Oregon, I feel like eastern Oregon would be very upset about this
I'm sure the sane people in those new Canadian provinces would want universal healthcare, but would they be willing to give up their guns? I think most of Canada is appalled at the gun violence in the US and would make giving up guns an unconditional requirement of joining Canada.
Deaths by firearm, per 100,000 people, are about 1/7 the number in Canada as it is in America.
America has over 200 school shootings a year. 2024 saw a near record with 330 school shootings.
Canada? 6 in its entire history. To get to the grand total of 9, you would have to include post-secondary institutions.
If you truly want to “think about the children”, firearm control comes wwwaaaaaaayyyyy before banning books and taking away lunches.
Hey take some cities as enclaves too. Blue cities in red states don't deserve that kind of punishment.
What about the liberals in conservative areas? We all gonna hold off because they're gonna get eaten by the dogs, too? What about liberal kids of conservative parents?
Just like now where they can all move to Massachusetts, under this plan, they can move to Canada
Archipelago?
I think the red area should get alberta, maybe saskatchewan too. And I would personally like to see the Alaska pan handle transferred to B.C.
Alaska would join Canada at this point I bet.
Realistically this wouldn't be possible, at least in the way most people assume. It's hard for people to just uproot their whole lives and move to another state (though it's easier these days), a partition like this would mean leaving behind a lot of liberal minded people, who are too poor or too rooted in a place.
Eggs and omelettes.
So would the genocide be the eggs or the omelets?
Neither, but I suspect you know your argument is in bad faith.
It's better to protect some people than none, and if that means balkanizing the US then that sucks for the blue islands in the Bible Belt but we are in crisis and that means triage.
Sounds like you are in a nice situation.
It'd be a lot nicer if Alabama wasn't dragging it down.
On a family zoom call we were comparing house moves. My bro had the record at like 51 times he moved his house. One year he moved to Manhattan, then to Harlem, then to London.
It's not hard, but it can be complex.
This is not just a simple house move, this is a whole on nation move, where you may never get to go back. There's will be massive paperwork, a lot of uncertainty, chaos and pain. From my anecdotal knowledge on what happened in countries like west/east germany, north/south korea, india/pak, I can say that this event will be very stressful for a lot of people.
Especially if you have to move for your safety. You might have to sell your house for cheaper than what it's worth, you might not be able to buy new land or find good renting opportunities. You might have to sell your business or close down. You might have to find new jobs, new schools, new everything. And some people just don't want to leave their home, no matter how fucked things are, because there's a chance they'll never see it again.
This isn't to mention, the pain that will come with such a divorce, the shame, and the lost hopes.
It's definitely hard and complex. I think you are greatly underestimating how traumatic such a move would be for a lot of people (even if it maybe necessary).
Moves are a pain, the biggest part is you lose circles of support as in friends, colleagues, community. But moving itself, while sucking badly is not terribly difficult. I have moved from UK, to Ontario, now to BC and its probably 12 houses I have lived in so far. You start to simplify your belongings as you go, but starting fresh friendship connections is the tricky part.
Moving from one state to another in the US costs about $10-20k if you hire a service. If you pack and move everything yourself and rent a truck you can take that down to around $6-7k, but the physical labor involved is strenuous. For people who don't have a lot of money or who are old or not physically strong, I think it's reasonable to describe it as difficult.
I was talking about the divorce as a whole. It would have some very serious ramifications. Moving wouldn't be easy, because you'd be doing so under a whole different set of circumstances than moving abroad for studying or for a job. It's not just you, it's everyone who wants to live a "liberal democracy" who would want to move and it wouldn't be easy at all, imo.
Historically mass exodus aren't fun.
We can have ChatGPT generate the paperwork. What could go wrong?
I have a garage filled with large power tools, my family and friends are all here and I own the land I live on. It’s hard and expensive to just uproot all that. For someone living an austere lifestyle it would be easier but if you’ve put down roots it’s much harder.
Illinois can stay.
What? No!
Okay, maybe everything more than 60 miles outside of Chicago can stay. Deal?
Nope sorry. Janesville has to stay too but we’ll take Madison and Milwaukee.
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