I was referring to the orcs as the evil race from the east. And I'm not saying that is objectively the reading of Lord of the Rings, but if you want to say that the story lends itself to a pro-fascist viewpoint, its easy to do that. Its also easy to say that the story is pro-anarchist or monarchist or grill pill or whatever you want.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's fair. Orcs aren't from the east though, TECHNICALLY, but I understand what you mean.

It's definitely open to different interpretations, fully agree.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean...fucking everyone from The East. That's where the elves woke up

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

~~It's been a while for me but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Men. Elves woke up in the West of Beleriand.~~

~~No one really can definitively say where orcs came from but if we assume they were corrupted elves, which I like, then they are still technically a 'western' race.~~

Nah, you're right! Elves woke up in the distant East as did Men. So I guess orcs could be considered eastern by my headcanon but so would everyone else like you said so I don't know where that leaves us. Haha

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Starting in the east and going west to die (like the sun) is a common trope in these epics, and actually just a common theme throughout culture and religions

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

The east could just refer to normal ass middle earth which was to the east of beleriand as well