This is great! Can't wait for him to no be able to do anything due to gridlock from the NYC democratic party machine and have to capitulate constantly, and then the massive Centrist Lib media apparatus will blame every problem plaguing NYC (even if the problems predated his mayoralship) which will give the Dem establishment more ammunition to blame all their woes on the progressive wing of the party and sell disenfranchised urban poor voters on establishment Dems.

Really a big fucking win for us. Letting the city sink under and establishment Dem was totally not the smarter fucking move.

Also if anyone calls me a doomer for this take I'll be recording your usernames and asking you how you feel about this post in a year from now.

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[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

There is also great value in having someone like him win, then fail to improve things or achieve anything. It teaches socialist-leaning people that electoralism achieves nothing. It’s ten years since Sanders, there’s a whole new generation that needs to be taught that lesson (apparently) lol.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

At the very least it normalizes and demystifies socialism for many people, which in itself is worth something. Getting everyday people to consider socialism as a viable alternative to the status quo is a big deal, and having a socialist mayor in arguably the most important city in the US goes some way toward that. Even if Zorhan crashes and burns, it will still help radicalize people, as you said.

I do kind of agree with the notion that we shouldn't put too much faith in electoral politics but at the same time we should always try to get socialists or leftwing people into positions of power when possible, for the reasons I stated above.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago

Yes exactly! I have to wonder how many people on hexbear picked up Lenin after watching Bernie get screwed.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

then fail to improve things or achieve anything.

he'll be better than adams and cuomo. what's your standard for these failures? he's not going to make a communist city-state, he's not going to hang all the landlords in central park but it's dumb as hell to expect those things

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I can say I was one of them and I am 40.