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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 38 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Someone gets it.

Lets instead do this:

Every citizen, irrespective of their nationality, skincolor, gender has the right to:

  • living quarters
  • work
  • maximum of 7 hours of work
  • free healthcare
  • paid vacation
  • equal pay and treatment for women
  • freedom of religion and speech

This is directly taken from a 1936 constitution. Today one could improve on it but we're so much worse, everywhere.

Now guess which one.

Go check if you dare

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Go check those living quarters they had lol, and food queues, and how well the health care worked if you had nothing to bribe with. Those sweet shortages of everything.

You should talk to someone who actually lived in the "union" and stop slurping kremlin propaganda. But will you? I wouldn't bet on it.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even if i dont check and just believe what you wrote, it still beats the shit out of the situation a ton of us are in right now (also that was literally 34+ yrs ago. Life was different then AND the country was recovering from tons of shit). Not to speak of the countries that make our ill gotten comfort possible too. And just to clarify, present day russia is not communist or socialist. they're as capitalist as the western states are. They are no better and no worse in terms of inequality.

The important part, will you have a respectful discussion or do I have to block you?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Man, it Ended 34 years ago, check out how life was in the eighties in URSS. Or seventies. The gulag vas so nice.

Today it's an autocracy, people earn 200€ a month and goes to prison for nothing, what a glorious place.

But I'm probably talking in the wind here, you don't seems to be interested in knowing right or wrong:

Even if I dont check...

If you want to know, do check.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And thats what I meant.

Respect means you acknowledge my arguments. Just backing off on the insults a bit (but not fully) isnt cutting it. Respectful discussion is addressing people's arguments as well as not insulting them or their intelligence.

I will definitely take the time and check things that are brought forward. Saying "just because shit was bad back then means exactly that, not that the system it was in was shit." isnt the same as sticking fingers in ones ears and singing lalala. Doing as if that were the case is just abusive rhetoric.

Because shit is horrendous today as well: Fentanyl hordes, people freezing to death on the streets, protesters shot, people deported to concentration camps, genocide, media spewing propaganda, most of the population living paycheck to paycheck, guantanamo. Most of the examples are US but the EU is only marginally different and catching up fast.

There is no such thing as a perfect system. Gulags alone are no sole cause for dismissal same as guantanamo is.

Here's a video about the reason why people hate socialism so much https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYS59egWQc

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't acknowledge your arguments because the boil down to whataboutism, "it was a long time ago" and other fallacies.

Then you goalpoast-move and try to say I don't like socialism lol. If you think the USSR was socialist I have a bridge to sell you.

BTW what bout you acknowledge my arguments? Based on historical facts? Nah guess you doesn't like what you'd read.

URSS was an authororian crap "union" and Russia is trying to become as bad, hopefully Russian will go the same way and be dismantled ASAP so their citisens can finally live in a free country.

Also Europe is on the brink of collapse or something? ROFL I live here. But you don't seems to be interested in facts.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I didnt think you would be able to defend against any of it.

But since you're still being condescending, this conversation is now over.

I will check the stuff you mentioned because, unlike you, I have no issue with being corrected.

Good luck with your attitude mate.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Lol I sure have a limited energy for tankies, but if you're serious i'll be so to.

Have a nice evening.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

I did my 7h of work, I'm retiring now.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Uh... This is coming from the folks who said "he who does not work, neither shall he eat" during a famine so... uh... yeah, that's not the flex you think it is.

Edit: And in case anyone is wondering, this gets worse with context.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I thought it was the nazis who said that, so I checked it with FuckDuckGo assist:

This phrase, "He who does not work, neither shall he eat," originates from the New Testament, specifically 2 Thessalonians 3:10,

Also love that people try to make it morally acceptable because of reasons.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

As opposed to the current time of surplus and abundance where it is if "you don't work you don't eat". Which is morally a lot worse considering there is more than enough food to feed everyone

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

And those were obviously 100% kept 🤡

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Luckily, the Soviet union treated homosexuals to a similar standard. /s

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Couldn't we just add equality for sexual orientation and gender expression to a new list of rights, along with the things already mentioned?

OP even said, "Today one could improve on it," implying that the referenced constitution isn't meant to be a comprehensive list for the modern day.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (42 children)

Stalin 1936 constitution. Holidays for "enemies of the people" were unpaid and in a quite cold climate of Siberia. They also cared about fitness of citizens by ensuring no one has too much of food. And if you didn't like it, you get a free ride in a black car to the place of final rest.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

The maximum hours you can work did not apply to everyone as my former boss has stories of working 12+ hours in the gulag he was sent to for reasons he does not know.

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