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"It is my opinion that the SUV or, as it is sometimes referred to, Large Engine Vehicle, which does so well in the United States, will be a wonderful addition to the various product lines within Vietnam"

Source: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114784170652465525

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[–] groet@feddit.org 253 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, the country known for driving scooters instead of cars will start buying SUVs that don't even fit the streets in many cities

[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago

Of course.. Ford Explorers and Lincoln Escalade are already being prepared for sal.... wait.... never being shipped to Vietnam.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 150 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vietnam also halted the expansion of McDonald’s because local street food is cheaper and better.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bahn Mi every day, so fucking good.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

bahn mi is a great name for a vietnamese joint at a train station

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*banh mi

But yes, so very delicious. So fresh too.

SUVs won't work in Vietnam, not when you have Grab and scooters everywhere. It might become a rich person thing to drive around in those awful yank tanks but that's hardly a market.

This just sounds like the VN government is just making a nothing deal sound good for Trump. Americans paying tariffs for incoming VN products versus Vietnamese paying nothing for incoming American SUVs? A product that most Vietnamese won't find useful at all?

Ugh.

I want some bread now...

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Oops, wrong spelling!

But uh, yeah, I agree, Trump got played, SUVs will take off in Vietnam as well as McDonalds did.

Trump is an actual idiot.

Not like, ad hom insult idiot.

He is just actually an idiot.

He still doesn't understand what a trade balance even is, or that services/digital goods we export aren't part of that number.

He's a spoiled brat that's gotten as far as he has by being an abusive narcissist who csn just buy his way out of everything with daddy's money.

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy shit yes, one of the best sandwiches in existence

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally banh mis and other Vietnamese basically street food, pho, stuff like that, is why McDonalds didn't take off.

Vietnam has some truly tasty and cost effective cuisine, and McDonalds was largely only eaten by corpo types just as a flex of how much money they have.

Its less nutritious, less tasty, and more expensive than what the Vietnamese have been eating for 100s, 1000s of years.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

From what I understand, it's all pretty cheap too. So the profit margins for McDs were probably thinner.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Last time I read a breakdown report on it, yeah, it was something in the range of...

A typical street vendor banh mi has more actual like weight of food in a sandwich than a McD borgor, and the McD borgor is also between 2x to 4x as expensive, depending on exactly where you are in Vietnam.

Also, lol, the vastly most profitable part of a McD meal is the soda, and then fries.

Like a drink that costs you $3.00 at McDonalds costs them fractions of a penny.

And... HFCS soda just has not worked too well in any Asian markets, basically.

Thats how you end up with like, Diet Cucumber Coca Cola in Japan, lol, a lot of Asia already also has a lot of great drinks, such as boba tea... and just actual tea, etc.

[–] thesquirrelfish@sfba.social 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@groet and American SUVs would break an axle or drive shaft or get stuck in the mud puddles on the rural roads. SUVs are really impractical unless you build your whole infrastructure around them. @Davriellelouna

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

The real problem there would be gas stations. Even Top Gear used scooters and motorcycles when they did a trip in Vietnam. And the big moron hated motorcycles.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (8 children)

...what? Being good off-road, or on bad roads, is [supposed to be] the entire point of SUVs.


Edit: Okay, okay, I get it. Language changes and "SUV" doesn't mean what I want it to mean. I'm well aware that I'm No True Scotsman-ing, but that doesn't make me any less mad about it! 😠

A representative sample chosen from among the replies wrote:

A truck maybe. Most SUVs are just big chunky road cars.

SUVs are supposed to be trucks with seats in the cargo area!

first-generation Toyota 4Runner, a real SUV, shown with the top removed so that it looks like a pickup truck with a seat in the cargo bed

All the car-based junk they build these days aren't real SUVs, and shouldn't exist because they're objectively inferior to station wagons and minivans.

Every SUV ought to be an acutally-off-road-capable one, and the only people who should buy them are ones who actually take them off-road.

[–] thesquirrelfish@sfba.social 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

@grue yep, I'm mad about SUVs too! I think everyone should be. They're also way more dangerous for the people around them as well as being bad at the purposes they're advertised for.
I often say that if I decide it's okay to be a terrible person and I want to harm the people around me and punish and increase costs to my government I'll buy an SUV.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I own an old SUV myself (a real one, that I got specifically for off-roading and backcountry camping). I'm just not so anti-social as to daily-drive it in the city.

[–] thesquirrelfish@sfba.social 1 points 11 hours ago

@grue oh yeah I'm also a specifically bad driver, and live in a super dense hard to drive in neighborhood.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 19 hours ago

Those car-based junk things are actually called "crossover SUVs", but the manufacturers are now just calling them SUVs, at least where I'm from.

I refuse to call anything without a proper transfer case an SUV personally. Hell, even the German luxury SUV barges at least have transfer cases with electronic locking of some sort. But plenty of crossovers have open center diffs with only traction control to facilitate "locking" it.

[–] thesquirrelfish@sfba.social 13 points 1 day ago

@grue yeah, so the commercials say. The ones I've driven haven't been particularly better than sedans except higher clearance.. making them more likely to rollover or break axles instead of scrape oil pans.

They're just a classification meant to evade certain regulations to sell worse cars based on a few metrics regarding things like clearance. Given the point is to avoid having to make a decent car...

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

With their weight and the lower profile tires that come stock, and how they’re kinda just like regular cars but bigger in every way except where it counts, they really aren’t. Their single big advantage is the ground clearance but many actually have bodies that come surprisingly low. One the OG Ford Rangers would be great, but only if it had 4x4 because all those RWD only trucks, especially when they have nothing in the back, are essentially worthless due to the total lack of traction. They’re also super long, which makes maneuvering difficult in tight spaces so obstacles you could have gone around are now barriers you have go through. Besides, my BRZ doesn’t explode when it hits a pothole or touches a gravel road and in fact does quite well, even when it was lowered by an inch. Hilariously, unlike many vehicles the BRZ comes with a metal skid plate by default to protect the oil pan from the road.

Trucks and SUVs are terrible. Body on Frame vans and smaller unibody work vans are incredible but most people are too stupid and/or insecure and vain to buy them instead.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Its true that around the origin of SUVs, yes, this was the point, and many could... not offroad as well as a specifically off road geared vehicle, but could offroad a lot better than a sedan.

But, now its been 20ish years, and broadly, manufacturing standards / quality control are shit ass fuck tier bad, everything is desiged to break just after your warranty expires, and are also intentionally engineered to be nightmares to try to self repair, or just literally impossible to do this due to 'everything's computer!' (unless you also want to hack your car)...

... so those offroad capabilities are functionally no longer present, beyond I guess all wheel drive as a mode.

Really, these days, an SUV is just a minivan that seats less people, doesn't have a sliding door, costs a fuckton more, has better ground clearance, and 'looks cooler'.

Pretty similar MPG.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Supposed to be, according to markering. Isn't. I think only half of SUVs sold in the US even have 4 wheel drive. This is fine because in the US most pickups and SUVs are just massive pavement princesses anyway.

[–] ExhibiCat@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 day ago

A truck maybe. Most SUVs are just big chunky road cars.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

don’t be surprised when the capitalists see this obvious issue as an “opportunity” for development of bigger streets etc. ie: profit.