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is this just some rightwinger out of his mind cause his wife left him?

did trump make some shit up about obama to distract from the epstein shit?

i saw a video of trump talking about how they’re all guilty of treason but he didnt say what they did

is the tweet not at all related to that video and its just like i said some fascist making up conspiracies?

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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 72 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I have a lot of thoughts.

  • Obama deserves it,
  • if this happens of fucking course the first and probably only person it will happen to is the black guy
  • it's very funny that Trump might break the glass on arresting former presidents to distract from Epstein
  • it might be good in the long run if presidents start facing consequences for their actions
  • it will almost certainly not shake out that way though, either because elections will stop or only right wingers will do it or it will all kind of get swept under the collective rug and forgotten
  • this is probably not going to happen
[–] nothx@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

get swept under the collective rug and forgotten

This

[–] waitaminute@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Why does he deserve it? What did I miss?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 46 points 5 days ago

Massacring civilians in Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, Iraq

Couping the governments of Honduras, Ukraine, and Egypt

Arming and funding right-wing dictatorships in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain

Keeping Guantánamo Bay open

Deporting more people than Trump ever did

Dismantling his own grassroots progressive organization leading to the loss of over a dozen states to the Tea Party

Provided cover for BP during the Horizon Oil Disaster

Bailed out Wall Street and pushed millions into homelessness and rentiership

Massively expanded the illegal surveillance state, pretty much spying on everyone and anyone

Operation Fast & Furious, i.e. sanctioned illegal gun running by the government

Funded, armed and trained Al-Qaeda in Syria, leading to the rise of ISIS

"Amended" the Smith Mundt Act to make it easier for the US government to spread blatant propaganda at home and especially overseas

Used the IRS to target progressive groupings like Occupy Wall Street, got so bad the director of the Exempt Organizations Unit of the Internal Revenue Service Lois Lerner resigned

Signed the Lehey Smith America Invents Act, which fucked over inventors and gave corporations increased ability to steal tech and hoard it

Prosecuted more journalists than any previous president in history by criminalizing whistleblowing

[–] billgamesh@hexbear.net 52 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Every US president is a war criminal

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

Some people might object to this by saying thst several US presidents predate the concept of war crimes.

But that's fine because they apply retroactively

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

Leading a campaign of Hope and Change to sheepdog progressives into his neoliberal agenda where their victories were symbolic and his were political, financial, and military, and then using his hard-fought icon status to attack every progressive who tried to make positive change after him.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

Quite a lot it seems but that's okay! Stick around here and keep asking good questions and learning from the answers :)

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Massive amounts of war crimes like bombing a wedding to start with

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Bombing Libya, being a neolib

[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump is probably going to argue that Obama's foreign policy (reducing sanctions on Cuba, trying to realign Russia) weakened America's position and is therefore treason, see also Benghazi, Chinese loan after 2008, Iran nuclear deal.

That being said, it's probably going to be a nothing burger

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nah, it's something about rigging the 2016 presidential race (which eagle-eyed readers may know Trump won anyway) by working behind the scenes to push Russiagate. The "evidence" they've released so far is comically shaky, with the main bit being that a briefing that may have said Russiagate was false was postponed, Obama ordered an investigation into Russiagate within a day of that cancellation, and that info of this investigation was leaked suspiciously quickly. Imo even the Trump-appointed hogs in the court system wouldn't back this.

[–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago

I read that it's about internal CIA memos concerning russiagate. The CIA said that russia can't really affect vote tallying. I believe that because the CIA stated that, Tulsa Gabbard claims that the investigation into Trump and his family by the CIA was election interference by the Obama administration and the CIA head at the time that capitulated to Trump and then was later fired by Trump.