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The idea that anything anyone could ever do warrants an infinite amount of suffering is crazy.
Ehh I mean some people who are irredeemably awful and would do awful things when given the chance 10 times out of 10...
Though that's more about who they are.
There are acts which deserve severe punishment. Perhaps multiple lifetimes of the most severe punishment one can imagine.
But there is no such act that, in this finite world, by finite humans, merits infinite punishment.
Which is why traditional understandings of Hell are just distance from God in the eternal group hug.
Larry niven and Jerry pournelle did a riff on Dante's inferno where a science fiction writter wakes up in hell with this theme. Do recommend.
Even that is a product of their upbringing. They can be fixed, it's a matter of long time, it hey, God has all the time in the world.
But eternal damnation is more fun
Having an explanation does not magically make someone fixable.
Even if that were true, we're literally talking about magic here. Either through therapy or wiggling his magic digits a deity should be able to fix anyone.
No, it's literally true. Some people are irredeemable piles of trash.
Interesting how so many are voting me down while the US has a PRESIDENT on a SECOND TERM that openly admits to sexually assaulting women and ignoring many, many basic tenants of human decency.., it's almost like you morons are completely disconnected from reality. Sad.
No one said it's easy, and when someone has terrible concepts at the core, it might actually require some time in Hell before any change can be made. But it is possible.
Also, the other commenter rightfully stated that a deity can literally flip the worldview of anyone if they want to.
You just completely ignored a good philosophical take to make a "Trump bad" statement, which already pervades everything here and adds 0 context to the conversation.
If you think I'm only talking of Trump then you're pretty damn ignorant to the entire point I've made. Good job failing both reading comprehension and the paradox of tolerance.
Your entire argument is "some people are irredeemable" without any further content except for mentioning Trump.
I state that your argument is false since God is almighty and also has all the time to fix the unfixable, and suspect that Trump was mentioned as yet another piece of Trump hysteria around Lemmy.
I admit Trump is a piece of shit, but reiterating it at every opportunity only serves to push people away because we all already know this and people generally do not like to be reminded of what they already know 15 times a day. (And as such, I am still intolerant of the intolerant, so don't jump to the conclusions.)
Belief in God is a disease. If someone is going to be a piece of shit until their natural death, they are by definition irredeemable trash.