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[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You reminded me of when I noticed the sheer volume of professional straight porn that was written with the performers as step-siblings.

I found it annoying but my guess is that it’s a quick/cheap attempt to broaden the appeal to as many as possible beyond the core “man and woman having sex” enjoyer demographic.

And also that targeting men is effective like YouTube 😱 Thumbnails aimed at kids and the algorithm, and the success of titties helping garner a following. (albeit one that may be there for the “wrong” reasons)

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You reminded me of when I noticed the sheer volume of professional straight porn that was written with the performers as step-siblings.

Not just siblings. Also dads and moms, uncles ... and let's be real, the "step" is there mostly for legal reasons. Basically people really seem to like incest. Not sure what that tells us about society.

[–] Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think the step- relations are to hide incest. I think it’s a lazy way to create situations where two people are alone together. Otherwise you’d have to go to tired tropes like pizza delivery, or visiting plumber, etc.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it’s a lazy way to create situations where two people are alone together.

But that would work just as well if they were actually related.

[–] Tandybaum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think there is a HUGE leap between imaging that you had an attractive step sibling vs it being you’re actual sibling.

I think most people could fantasize about that hot girl from your science class suddenly living in the next bedroom over. I think most people have near 0 interest in hooking up with their actual family.

[–] Tandybaum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and let's be real, the "step" is there mostly for legal reasons.

Is this true? I’m surprised.

When I was 12 I got a step sister that was 17-18 and I definitely had a thing for her. I always assumed this stuff was aimed at that but maybe I’m just living in my own head over here.

The step stuff I really dumb though and I have no interest in it either way. However, if they dropped the step I would be 100% out.

[–] PickTheStick@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

You're right. It's not just legal reasons. There are some neat studies showing that if two people under the age of 5 are raised in the same household together, feelings of sexual attraction generally don't develop later when you're sexually maturing. So the porn somewhat follows reality in the scenario of step-siblings being more likely to develop sexual attraction.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is this true? I’m surprised.

I don't know if it's true in general. I don't have the data on that. But I do remember some videos in which "But I'm just your step-sister" was said quite sarcastically.

When I was 12 I got a step sister that was 17-18 and I definitely had a thing for her.

I also have no good data on how many people have step siblings. But it has to be quite a lot if it's a market for one of the biggest porn genres.

if they dropped the step I would be 100% out.

It really does make it a lot weirder. That's why they don't do it. I probably still would be in though. I can ignore the title and dialoge if needed.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Financial, not legal. A bunch of credit card companies and ad companies don't want to be associated with incest porn, but are fine with step-incest porn, for whatever reason. So long as the actors aren't actually related it's totally legal, and even related actors would be legal in some US states.

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can take a guess at what it tells us.

We're lonely. We get no physical contact. No touch. No warmth. And it's not really socially acceptable for us to seek those things, because men are scolded for emotions and vulnerability. We are scolded for anything that would enable intimacy.

And it's to such an extent that most men are so repressed they don't even realize they crave intimacy. They don't even have the vocabulary to describe their need for intimacy.

Now introduce, to such a man, a "sister."

Heavy emphasis on the quotes.

The "story" of the porn, using their family ties as a shortcut, quickly establishes that she lives with him. She bonds with him. It's socially acceptable for him to hug her, to wrestle with her, maybe even to cuddle her. And she will always be there, because her connection to him runs deeper than most "romantic" relationships can (we're still assuming this man can't articulate his own need for intimacy), so he doesn't need to worry about her abandoning him.

Naturally, this emotionally repressed man is going to look at this fictional family member, this figment of his suspension of disbelief, and say, "well I want to 🦆 her!" (I always find my keyboard's lack of profanity amusing. I refuse to teach such an innocent piece of software how to cuss.)

What he really means is that he appreciates that intimacy. And cannot really get turned on in its absence. But he can't say that. He can't admit that or even know that. Because this man is not only starved of all of the above: he can't even articulate this starvation.

Daughters? Sisters? Mothers? They all serve the same purpose as a shortcut -- "here's a person who is intimate and trusting with you by default." The familial bond is a fast, easy way to establish prebuilt trust and affection without spending 20-30 minutes on storytelling or 20-30 hours of therapy trying to convince a repressed audience that it's okay to have a deep, intimate, trusting connection with this consenting woman.

In other words, what it tells us about society isn't good.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From what I heard about it, the issue was one of production quality.

Tons of vanilla porn in low quality, but -fetish- porn was high quality.

The family ties stuff is easy enough to ignore if you just don’t listen to the limited dialogue, so people would seek that out because it was better quality than vanilla, which led producers to think the fetish was the important part.