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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If I saw someone with a defibrillator ripping the clothes off an unconscious woman, I don't think I would suspect foul play.

[–] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You might not, but you gotta remember that the public is also filled with idiots

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While my cousin's neighbor is fighting a law suit because, a woman (cousin's neighbor) used defibrillator on another woman(when her heart stopped) , and other woman is now suing the neighbor for some minor marks from defibrillator. Mostly neighbor will win the case, but she has to appear in court now. Makes me feel so angry and i don't even know the neighbor lady.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

in these cases sometimes the insurance makes you sue even if you don't want to because otherwise they won't pay for any of the debt

My colleague has a situation where he's being sued by his neighbor for minor burns after a firework accident a few years ago 4th of July. The neighbor doesn't want to sue him but has no choice to get the medical services paid for.

[–] Chreutz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if judges could be persuaded to levy punitive damages against the insurance company for this kind of thing. "Your honor, we're only wasting your time with this because the insurance company is making us sue. Could you confiscate a few hundred million dollars from them for this worthless harassment?"

[–] PickTheStick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

At least in America, all the judges are either in the pocket of the businesses or have their hands tied by laws passed by legislators who are in the pocket of businesses. Fuck them businesses.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The ultimate goal with insurance companies is to have you give them money and they never have to give you anything in return. If they can get you to sue the other person, the insurance company doesn't have to pay. To them it's a win-win.

Weakly regulated insurance is a scam

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And you have to remember that there's a difference between what some random idiot on the street thinks and what someone can actually be prosecuted for.

Jesus Christ, do the fucking CPR

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It's not just about being prosecuted, but publicly judged and shamed for.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surely there are good Samaritan laws even in the US?

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The court of public opinion, and cancel culture, do not care about good Samaritan laws.

News that destroys reputations can spread faster and further than the truth. Most people still think the McDonalds coffee lady is a gold digger after 20 years of corrections.

[–] PickTheStick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are, but remember that defenses come into play after being sued. So you can still go through the mental nightmare (because let's be real, a rich person isn't going to be doing CPR, and certainly isn't going to care about being sued, so only your typical person who could lose everything in this scenario) of being a defendant in a lawsuit until the judge agrees to toss it or you go to court and are found not liable.

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The public scrutiny and the mark on your record does not go away even if you're found not liable. Once you are even accused of anything like this, it's there forever. People will think you got off on a "technicality".

If you're a man facing this, your life is ruined. May as well move away and never come back.

Never said I wouldn't do the CPR. Only pointing out that in an emergency situation that people are fucking stupid and that a random idiot could easily interfere violently with what they think might be sexual assault

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I agree do the CPR but my fear would be getting kicked in the head not sued

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which is why all the most clever rapists carry defibs.

If you EVER see a man carrying a defibrillator, 9 of 10 times, he's a rapist.

What's worse, the extra super clever ones, ride around in ambulances with disguises to make them look like paramedics.

Whenever I see a rapist mobile with flashing lights, I run them off the road.

I've saved at least a dozen women already this year.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

To be fair there are rapist mobiles and they do have flashing lights, they just don't say "Ambulance" on them.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I could imagine someone thinking "wow he took her bra off, that was unnecessary". Since correct defib use isn't really common knowledge