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Too many people are confusing the two. Whenever lemmy.ml or its devs do something stupid, people go "Lemmy is getting worse and worse," or "I'm leaving Lemmy," or worse, "I'm leaving for Beehaw."

If you're using Beehaw, then you're using Lemmy. Lemmy is the software these instances run on. If you don't like lemmy.ml, join another instances that have rules that match your philosophy. Some instance hosts authoritarian or fascist shit? Turn to another Lemmy instance. Lemmy.ml is not even the biggest instance. People who just joined and are unfamiliar with the platform will just think the entire Lemmyverse is run by autocratic admins if we don't get our terminology right.

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[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why, what’s wrong with lemmy.ml? Can someone eli5 me?

My account actually lives there but I also made a lemmy world one.

[–] porkins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In the lead developer’s GitHub, he sympathizes with Marxism including those that committed atrocities.. He apparently censors lemmy.ml with this in mind. Since it is open source though, I can trust that other instances might be better maintained. There is no way I’ll use any personal information in my signup because this all probably is going to China.

[–] BenHouston@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

my signup because this all probably is going to China.

China is sophisticated enough that it can vacuum up all the information it wants about without any involvement of a Lemmy.lm admin.

[–] ZheSquirrel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh the ml in lemmy.ml is Marxist lenonist. That makes a lot of sense actually

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally just made that up. I'm pretty sure they said at some point that they chose this simply cause its free.

[–] ZheSquirrel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was wrong, and it was a guess using context clues from the post I was replying too.

I didn't "make it up", I was just incorrect.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I just get kinda pissed off at comments like that because I've been using lemmy for like 3 years now and they've never done something wrong but now there are some people that just say stuff about them that's not even true. Your comment wasn't the first like that after all.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leninist. Marxist Leninist is largely an oxymoron as Lenin just sort of ignored a lot of core things Marx discussed. Specifically going against many of them. There are many different Marxism derived ideologies that aren't ML and don't sympathize or apologize for the atrocities of ML or capitalist regimes. Please don't lump them all together.

As far as Leninist go. I agree with you 💯% though.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When it comes to physics Einstein has yet to be proven wrong for just about anything. When it came to politics and human nature. Einstein was not known to be any great judge. And even then. That's feinting praise. Einstein knew how to throw shade.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OP is annoyed because lemmy.ml devs are left-leaning and don't encourage bombing muslim countries, killing gays or locking black people in areas abandoned by the government.

[–] Stampela@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, how do you feel about the Chinese government and the North Korean one? Good? Hopeful they expand? They do.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hi friend! I’m not sure how this is possibly related to my question. But thank you anyway.

[–] learningduck@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They prevent incoming traffic from kbin. Sp, only leach kbin's contents, but not sharing back.

Some users accused developers as being tankies. Not sure how true this is.

[–] rainfern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh they're absolutely tankies, dessalines website is crystal clear on that. To me this is simply a test of the fediverse. If it works as intended, the devs political orientation shouldn't matter. We'll see.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are we talking about the devs of Lemmy itself, or people specific to .ml?

[–] dot20@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

.ml is run by the Lemmy devs.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh that’s not good. That goes against the spirit of federation. I wonder what their reasons are.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Nobody knows for sure, but my guess is they blocked any request with "Bot" in the header, and blocked the "KbinBot" by accident.

Just a guess though.