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A new lawsuit filed in federal court last month alleges that the Baton Rouge Police Department ran a “torture warehouse” where members of its Street Crimes Unit strip searched, beat, and otherwise humiliated people and then released them, often without their being charged with a crime. Soon after the lawsuit was filed, the FBI opened a civil rights investigation into the allegations of misconduct at the now-shuttered warehouse known as “the BRAVE Cave.”

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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The main problem with this is that the hits these days are in the millions of dollars and that adds up fast. So the inevitable result even with just good faith mistakes would be that people would stop being cops. People who could be good cops wouldn't join to replace them because of the risk, and the entire thing would likely just disintegrate.

On the one hand fine! On the other hand, what takes its place?

This is not intended to be a pro-cop argument, just an explanation of the problem. We need a social institution that can fill that gap in a better way.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I prefer the insurance angle, where LEOs have to carry insurance similar to how doctors carry malpractice insurance. Any settlements are paid for by insurance instead of the department; officers who cause problems will have their rates go up, until they eventually become uninsurable.

[–] steveman_ha@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Pretty appropriate way to handle it with current "systems and institutions", too, nice.

[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

City of Chicago is 22,000 police officers short of full enforcement. That means the good ones have left and they can't fire the bad ones, and they pay ridiculous salaries because nobody wants to be a cop. That song ain't called "fuck the firemen"

[–] dym_sh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oh noes, glorified parking tickets task force will not be able to assassinate on the job :'<

there are trained social workers and there are proper SWAT teams to replace this fat underbelly of bureaucracy and corruption

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Sarcasm aside, there's still gangs and prostitution and shoplifters and domestic violence and all that. Some sort of public safety mechanism needs to exist.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Oh my god, prostitution? What will we do in a world where two consenting adults trade services for money? Thank god we have paid murderers on hand to ensure that can’t happen!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago

I'll second this.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Sure, let's overlook the girls forced into prostitution and pretend they are all consenting adults. Until it is legalized and regulated it's is an area prone to abuse and exploitation.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gangs and DV are often problems the cops themselves are some of the worst offenders in, and sex work should be legal anyways.

Shop lifting is best handled through trial afterwards rather than intervention during.

The rare instances where an intervention of force is actually necessary could be covered by NG reserves or FBI field agents if a force is seriously so incompetent that they bankrupt themselves on liability.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Slowly we're getting back to "cops, but without corruption"

[–] dym_sh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the police does not PREVENT any of it

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, but how do we as a society respond, thoughts and prayers or some sort of actual response?

I'd love to hear your suggestions.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol. Love the downvotes.

No response! Only criticize!

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Welcome to lemmy