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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 213 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this should be a clear violation of the gag order. but it wont be. theyll be some hand waving and he wont be held to account. and no, a monetary fine is not justice.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The gag order was in reference to court staff only, wasn't it? Didn't the judge explicitly leave himself off it? I forget which judge this is, there are so many

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judge said they had thick enough skin to deal with whatever he said.

I doubt the judge is OK with Trump openly calling for people to do harm to them.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That was very stupid of the judge. Insults and mockery normally are just that. But when someone has a platform as large as Trump full of violent traitors, it turns into death threats pretty quick.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Turns out quite a few judges are pretty stupid, too. Stupid or corrupt (not in his case but others).

[–] Metatronz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This judge and his court have been getting death threats since day one. He's a chill dude 😎. Respect

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Judges have to be careful with their orders. They have a lot of power, but are always subject to review. No judge wants to see their orders overturned on appeal because of some action they took.

So while a judge absolutely can impose a broad gag order on Trump right away based on his past behavior, his lawyers get to appeal, and they have shown that their legal strategy is whining about every little thing until they get their way.

By doing out punishments in small stages, he can establish a clear pattern of objectionable conduct, such that when the harsher penalties come, his lawyers have a much worse position to whine from.

honestly im surprised he didnt just outright threaten someone. it kinda feels like this is a desperate attempt at a mistrial.

how many judges would allow 'well, you only broke the intent of my rules not the letter, so ill let it slide this 3rd time'. its prolly zero... unless of course you know the intent of the defendant is to generate a mistrial or other incident allowing appeal.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trump isn't a actually stupid. He's just an asshole and normal people don't get it.

But if the judge left himself off, and if Trump can make him adjust the order to add himself, or otherwise indicate that he's upset that he's being targeted himself, Trump can and will then argue that the judge is making personal decisions and ask try to make drama about recusing. Which won't go anywhere, but will ramp his followers up further.

He knows exactly what he's doing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I couldn’t disagree more. He’s unfathomably stupid.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Haha that's so true. I have no doubt there are intelligent people around him who are trying to get him to be the evil genius that guy thinks he is, but there's just no way he can do it on his own. Unfathomably stupid is the perfect description.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No he is just him. There’s no act. There’s no strategy. There’s no subterfuge. What you see is what you get and Trump is a very stupid person.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of people are saying he's the dumbest, maybe the dumbest that's ever lived. Just the other day he was punching a baby, and the baby miraculously spoke its first words, calling him dumb. If Nobel had a prize for being dumb, he'd win every year. No one else can compare to his ultimate dumbness.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The worst part is he enables people that are smarter and just as vile.