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[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 221 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That and NASA is a very safety conscious organization. So they want to overestimate everything and include way more than they need. So when she said a couple per day you can round that to 5 for safety, then considering it's a 6 day mission they want to include triple the amount of needed supplies which means 18 days worth. 18*5=90 which is pretty close to 100 so let's round up again. Plus tampons are a useful first aid tool, especially in zero gravity. You shove some into an open wound and it'll prevent blood from spilling all over the very sensitive equipment. Does a woman need 100 tampons for 6 days? Of course not, but she wasn't going to spend a week in the mountains, she was going to space, so the safety precautions were much more stringent

[–] _danny@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's also a weight thing. Tampons are pretty light, it's like one hundred per pound, so they probably said "we can budget x pounds for this" and didn't think much about the reasoning behind why they're sending several hundred tampons into space, but we're entirely focused on how.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 19 points 1 year ago

Less than that I think, and I’d suspect NASA would do load calculations in metric.

According to this reputable (first result on Google) High School Science Fair Project ^PDF, the average tampon is about 1g. I wouldn’t be surprised if they just budgeted 100g for it.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

There's also the point that they don't go bad. It might be easier to send a load up now, that try and fit enough for each female astronaut into every flight.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just a word of advice, the tampon in a wound thing, as much as the Russian military might advise it, is not good medical technique. Do not use a tampon to plug a wound. It'll likely do more harm than good. Just apply pressure to it from the outside with your hand if you have literally no other option.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Agree in general. The problem would be debris trapping, fluid compartmenting, sterility, etc.

But if you need a dressing and that's all you have, unpacking them into gauze pad like things would be great.

All of this assuming you are literally flying 7.5km/s towards a trauma center

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can the same be said about doing that in zero gravity with specialised sensitive equipment all around you that are essentially keeping you alive?

I'll take an infection over crashing down in the ISS any day.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luckily I'm sure there's plenty of perfectly good alternatives for them. I don't think we need to even discuss that as am option. Some people will literally buy them for their IFAK in case of gunshot wounds on earth though, so I thought I'd clear it up.

[–] MonkeMischief 2 points 1 year ago

Huh. Learned something today! Because I remember some "worst case scenario" show where a guy suggested just that if nothing else was available.

Imagine how much it would suck treating a wound with a tampon and dying of toxic shock. 😬

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learned recently that in space you might not need to piss as the piss floats in your bladder.

normally you get 3/4s full and really need a slash, but in space it can fill up totally without you feeling anything and then just bust out your urethra without notice.

honestly, it was probably a fair point.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Your bladder changes volume to hold urine; there's no floating, just pressure. Gravity affects that pressure though.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

NASA also does everything they can to save weight though.

On later Apollo missions, they cut the number of band-aids in the lunar lander's first aid kit from 6 to 12 to save weight.

[–] NotMaster@lemmynsfw.com 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doubled the bandaids to save weight. I can see why the tampon thing was a struggle for them.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They're to replace the tampons

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

they cut the number of band-aids in the lunar lander's first aid kit from 6 to 12 to save weight.

I see here is the problem. The guy doesn't know how to reduce weight, you don't add more stuff to cut on weight. That explains the extra tampons.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'm a government employee, so it makes sense that even my efficiency programs create bloat.

[–] Jabbermuggel@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not that I disagree that NASA isn't safety conscious, but I've recently watched a video about the challenge disaster which seemingly could easily have been avoided if they had listened to the weather concerns or redesigned their solid boosters after issues were observed in the first place. I guess in that case they just got too complacent.

[–] aido@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That decision was made on a different level, though, and was largely political.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every policy is written in blood.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

menstrual blood, sometimes

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I thought you were going to say adjust their tampon supply estimates and then something about mankind and hell in a cell...

[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

My mom makes similar calculations for holiday dinners.