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In fact, the opinion by Colorado District Judge Sarah B. Wallace is a giant step toward disqualifying Trump from the ballot on constitutional grounds.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's an interesting take. I would love to fast forward to find out what happens. Since IANAL wonder also whether a broad interpretation was chosen for a reason and if so, what it was.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have a read for yourself, see what you think.

Forgive me while I promote a place to post original documents.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooo. Cool! That's an interesting read (well, I skimmed over a lot of it). Really brings into focus the arguments and rationale for the court findings. Some gold nuggets in there.

I didn't really find the part about broad interpretation but I found the section on understanding what was meant by insurrection and by engagement quite interesting.

There seems to be a very solid basis for interpreting these terms as the court did (based on my years of experience not being a lawyer lol). And Trump's team sounds incompetent.

For example, they argued that the Jan 6 Committee was biased and the report shouldn't be considered trustworthy. But never offered evidence to counter any of its findings. Bruh. Wtaf.

Interesting that the "offices" to be disqualified by the 14th amendment are explicitly listed and exclude the president and vice president. And an earlier version did specifically include those two positions. Fucking hell. Thanks a lot, drafters of the 14th.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's patently absurd to think that the drafters of this clause intended for it not to apply to President or Vice President -- because they explicitly state that someone who engaged in insurrection cannot be a member of the Electoral College. So ... it's not okay to play a teeny tiny role in selecting POTUS or VPOTUS, but let's make sure that it is okay to actually be POTUS or VPOTUS?

There is absolutely no way that that is the case. It's irrational and ludicrous.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hopefully that is precisely what the appeal will determine.