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[Mortgage Is 'Just A Fancy Bullsh*t Word For Paying Rent For 30 Years To The Bank,' Says Real Estate Billionaire Grant Cardone — Here's Why Renting Could Be A Better Financial Move

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If renting doesn’t make sense at half of what it costs to pay the mortgage, how does the mortgage make sense

Where on earth is renting cheaper than a mortgage?

Let’s say it’s in Orange County where the house is $800 grand," Cardone said. "You’d have to sell the house for $2 million just to pay the interest bac

As opposed to paying even the same in rent, where you get NONE of it back?

assuming a 3% annual increase in rent

Lol, what planet do they live on?

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On that 800k house, it takes a little over 30 years to get 2 million out of it if the house appreciates at 2% per year. Housing in many places has appreciated much faster than that (much faster than the market or any other single thing, including cryptocurrency)

[–] yaaaaayPancakes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And this is why we have a housing shortage. Because it's in the financial interests of owners to restrict the building of housing.

[–] automattable@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In high CoL places, rent is routinely much lower than a mortgage— not to even mention the incredible down payment that you have to get the loan in the first place.

As an example, a one bedroom apartment in SF would cost you around $1,000,000 to buy. If you somehow have $200k to get a mortgage, your monthly payment is about $6k. To rent that same apartment, you’d only (lol, only) pay ~$3000-4500.

On top of this, the cost of owning is higher than just your mortgage payment. Your lender will most likely require homeowners insurance which can easily run a few thousand dollars per year (compared to a couple hundred for renters insurance). You also have to pay for the big repairs yourself when as a renter if the heat breaks that’s the landlord’s problem.

[–] yaaaaayPancakes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is me. I live in LA, near Hollywood. I pay 3k/month in rent for a 1200sq ft 2br apartment that's close to everything.

A condo similar to my apartment (it was a condo conversion of a building similar to mine) in my neighborhood sold for almost a million this past year. That's about 6k/month all in w/ taxes and whatnot, not including maintenance costs.

Why the fuck would I pay double to own the same thing, and lose all my flexibility, when I take that 3k difference every month and invest it. Which builds wealth too. Sure, my investments may not be as inflation protected as a home, but they're a lot more fucking liquid. And I can move in 30 days no unsold house hanging over my head.

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Australia and most developed cities in Asia rent is cheaper than a mortgage.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do mortgages function the same in those Asian cities?

I mean you could compare the 'monthly payment' on Jenose in Korea but it's not the real number. It's not comparable.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeonse

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is not correct for Australia.

I'm looking at places in Melbourne at the moment. A 1-bedroom place is around $450 a week or $1800 a month roughly.

You can easily get a cheaper mortgage than that for a 1 bedroom place. Potentially even get a 2 bedroom unit for same as you'd pay in rent.