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[-] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

If you read the actual original Investopedia article, most of these claimed costs make silly assumptions about the definition of "The American Dream" and a lot of the data is cherry picked.

They claim the "American dream" requires an $800k house at an over 7% interest rate and they assume you only put 10% down.

They claim the "American dream" involves buying a different used car every 6 years.

They claim the "American dream" involves spending $70k on pets over the course of your lifetime.

Its an interesting exercise, but the assumptions are weird and the headline is sensational.

[-] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

If we assume a generous pet lifespan of 15 years that's not unreasonable that's like $400/mo which depending on what your pet needs food wise and how much you spoil them is easily met

[-] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

If you have pets bigger than a hamster, 70k in your lifetime seems reasonable, even low. That around 1k per year.

And a different used car every 6 years is borderline frugal. My dream would be a new car every 3 years.

I don't see the data to be so bad. Even the house financing is realistic (heavily dependent on location, of course).

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I bought my current car new 14 years ago. It has some issues that might be too expensive to fix so I might need to buy another car. My ideal car would be an electric car, but that is way too expensive for my budget. So I looked at hybrids. I might be able to make a hybrid work, but even a gas car will be stretching my budget.

And I plan to keep my next car until it breaks down - which hopefully would be about another 14 years.

[-] SpezBroughtMeHere@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I've never understood the mentality of 'its too expensive to fix'. $3000 is unobtainable, but $15000 just fine? My jeep needed a new engine, instead of buying a new car I just put a new engine in it. Saved me over ten grand and I've got transportation for at least the next ten years. Just fix your car, you'll be better off in the long run.

[-] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

Cars devaluate around 50% every 3 years, so if you bought a 3 year old car instead of new, you could swap it every 7 years for the same cost. And if it holds some residual value, even more often than that...

Some manufacturers even offer warranties on 3 year old leasing returns.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

As an average, those assumptions are downright modest. The cliche of a house with a white picket fence, a wife, 2.5 kids, a dog, and a mortgage line up pretty well with that.

Granted, this isn't everyone's dream, and it doesn't apply everywhere. But I would bet that the majority of people in this country would describe that as the cost to live that cliche.

[-] pirat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Now, please don't tell me the dog ate that 0.5 kid!?

[-] roboslap@mander.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

The $800k house figure includes interest payments. So the value of the home will be much, much less than $800k.

[-] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Buddy you need to move out of Nebraska. Those are perfectly reasonable assumptions.

[-] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I live on the west coast. Maybe check your own assumptions as well.

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