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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 129 points 6 months ago

We have to have some form of recourse for this wasteful bullshit.

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 121 points 6 months ago

That would be voting but unfortunately the republican base doesn’t read big words or lacks reading comprehension skills so this will continue.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

I guess nobody planned for a population that can't think. "What if future leaders defund education to a point the populace is vulnerable? What if we extend this two or three more generations and the leaders themselves are vulnerable to foreign propaganda?"

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

As with everything that's wrong with the country, thank you president Reagan.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 19 points 6 months ago

"I am Emperor Ronald Reagan
Born again, with fascist cravings
Still, you made me president

Human rights will soon go 'way
I am now your Shah today
Now I command all of you
Now you're gonna pray in school
And I'll make sure they're Christian too"

[-] rindo25@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

"California Uber alles, California Uber alles."

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So, a significant chunk of the founders were very skeptical of democracy and saw the risks of demagoguery. Their answer unfortunately tended to be to let the rich run things, because rich people (like themselves) would be more likely to be public minded and not selfish. That’s also, one might say, why the president has as much power as is allocated to that office independent of the legislature - initially, some wanted a king - and why the senate has more power than the house, and senators were not originally determined by popular election. The 17th amendment was passed in 1913.

They made a few other mistakes, too. Although some people (notably including Washington) saw the threat of political parties (which might in fact be an inevitable aspect of democracy), they also thought that the self interest of office holders would be to their office - president vs house vs senate vs judiciary, federal vs state governments - and did not foresee that people would instead find their self interest in their party, which would coordinate across all of those boundaries.

They also carried the enlightenment ideal of people being rational self interested actors who could deliberate and put aside self interest for the good of the country. Adam Smith himself said as much.

It comes down to selfishness versus tribalism versus what David Singer calls the expanding circle of inclusion (family, tribe, city, nation, humanity, ecosystem).

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

The founding fathers never conceived the complete lack of morals and character from a majority of the leaders of our country. I'm pretty sure they planned on a revolution long before we got to this point.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Apparently none of them studied Rome. As long as the average member of the populace has some form of comfort you can play orchestra pieces while burning the capital.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Panem et circenses, baby!

[-] jayknight@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

[-] politicalincorruption@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

That ship has sailed. 🚢

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I've been saying this for years.

This government was setup with several base assumptions. One was a minimum level of societal expectation from those in power positions. And along that same expectation, only white male land owners would be able to vote. This meant that there was a base expectation that a voter had enough time to stay informed of current events, and to be educated about politics so they could have have an informed opinion worthy of a vote.

We have removed many state nearly everyone has the right to vote and voice their desires and expectations, but nothing was done about the other side of this societal equation.

Instead of only men with the available time and societal expectations to be actively political, stay educated, and up to date; now everyone has an equal chance to voice their opinion, whether or not they have any education about a topic, pay attention to politics at all, or even know how any of our government functions beyond filling out a bubble on a piece of paper next to a letter of the alphabet they believe they identify with. The barrier to entry for voting is essentially non-existent compared to what the system was originally designed with.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They love this spiteful, kangaroo court bullshit, plus they’re convinced of the conspiracy theories because they have to believe that everyone is as shitty as they are in order to feel better about themselves.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 months ago

They would be angry if they could read this

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Not only will it continue but it will get worse every year. An intentionally failing education system which in many Republican states is purposefully undermined into not teaching critical thinking skills.

New voters are more easily manipulated.

It's the alternate plot point of Idiocracy, happening, in real life, right before our eyes.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

the republican base doesn’t read big words

This is true ^

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 months ago

In a sane world, this would cost them elections. Unfortunately, they have their own media sphere, so half the voting pool eats this shit up.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Probably too many safe districts for teabagging politicos, too.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago

we do, they're called elections.

a third of the country wants this stuff.

not enough everyday people turn out to vote to stop this.

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