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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 186 points 6 months ago

Orange calls to extort foreign nation in exchange for election dirt on opponent: Republicans - “We don’t see noting but a perfect phone call”

Joe Biden breaths: Republicans - “ImPEeEEeeEEEECh!!!!!!!!”

[-] hansl@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago

To be fair they can’t complain about Biden being black or wearing a tan suit…

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

It would be fucking hilarious if he gets a subpoena to testify and shows up in a tan suit. Maybe bring a bottle of Dijon mustard just for good measure. I would pay good money to see that.

[-] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Or Dijon mustard on his hotdog

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 129 points 6 months ago

We have to have some form of recourse for this wasteful bullshit.

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 121 points 6 months ago

That would be voting but unfortunately the republican base doesn’t read big words or lacks reading comprehension skills so this will continue.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

I guess nobody planned for a population that can't think. "What if future leaders defund education to a point the populace is vulnerable? What if we extend this two or three more generations and the leaders themselves are vulnerable to foreign propaganda?"

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

As with everything that's wrong with the country, thank you president Reagan.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 19 points 6 months ago

"I am Emperor Ronald Reagan
Born again, with fascist cravings
Still, you made me president

Human rights will soon go 'way
I am now your Shah today
Now I command all of you
Now you're gonna pray in school
And I'll make sure they're Christian too"

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[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So, a significant chunk of the founders were very skeptical of democracy and saw the risks of demagoguery. Their answer unfortunately tended to be to let the rich run things, because rich people (like themselves) would be more likely to be public minded and not selfish. That’s also, one might say, why the president has as much power as is allocated to that office independent of the legislature - initially, some wanted a king - and why the senate has more power than the house, and senators were not originally determined by popular election. The 17th amendment was passed in 1913.

They made a few other mistakes, too. Although some people (notably including Washington) saw the threat of political parties (which might in fact be an inevitable aspect of democracy), they also thought that the self interest of office holders would be to their office - president vs house vs senate vs judiciary, federal vs state governments - and did not foresee that people would instead find their self interest in their party, which would coordinate across all of those boundaries.

They also carried the enlightenment ideal of people being rational self interested actors who could deliberate and put aside self interest for the good of the country. Adam Smith himself said as much.

It comes down to selfishness versus tribalism versus what David Singer calls the expanding circle of inclusion (family, tribe, city, nation, humanity, ecosystem).

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

The founding fathers never conceived the complete lack of morals and character from a majority of the leaders of our country. I'm pretty sure they planned on a revolution long before we got to this point.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Apparently none of them studied Rome. As long as the average member of the populace has some form of comfort you can play orchestra pieces while burning the capital.

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They love this spiteful, kangaroo court bullshit, plus they’re convinced of the conspiracy theories because they have to believe that everyone is as shitty as they are in order to feel better about themselves.

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 months ago

In a sane world, this would cost them elections. Unfortunately, they have their own media sphere, so half the voting pool eats this shit up.

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 90 points 6 months ago

Can’t wait to see all the evidence /s

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 61 points 6 months ago

You just did!

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

"Because I said so"

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Hunter's dong was already entered into the Congressional record, was it not? QED, impeach.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 83 points 6 months ago

Impeach him for what? Well, that's TBD, apparently.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

No need for reason or evidence or anything. Hell, we don't even need a charge with any meat on it. None of that matters.

All we care about is normalizing Presidential impeachments. That way we get to play whataboutism endlessly.

Started with Clinton. Most of us thought it was all rather ridiculous, but they tried anyway. Here we are.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Exactly. Ideally, they would have wanted to have impeached Biden 3 times. This way, Trump could have said that he wasn't impeached nearly as much as Biden.

They failed at that, but Plan B is to impeach him once regardless of any evidence or any charges. Then, Trump can claim that impeachment is just a normal thing that opposing parties do and that it means nothing.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago

Joe Biden must be held accountable for Donald Trump's crimes

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Apparently impeach him for being Trump’s opponent.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Y'know, like authoritarians. They do authoritarian things. Because they want a dictatorship.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Well, clearly he committed a very heinous act. He defeated Trump in the 2020 election. That's not allowed and means he needs to be removed ASAP!

In unrelated news, watch your step. I seem to have spilled a lot of sarcasm over here.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

In their narrative Trump was impeached for "nothing" so they have to do the same to Biden.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Doesn't matter, it's precedent that empowers them.

It's only a matter of time before Republican successfully impeach a democratic president simply for winning the vote. All it takes it them holding enough seats in the house and the Senate.

What then?

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 71 points 6 months ago

I wonder if they’re going to pull Ben Ghazi out of retirement for this clown show.

[-] MetaSynapse@kbin.social 35 points 6 months ago

You mean the Republicans' favourite band, Ben Ghazi and the Buttery Males?

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[-] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 68 points 6 months ago

They can’t seriously be trying to impeach over a families foreign assets and running Trump as their candidate at the same fucking time.

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

They can because the people who vote for them aren't smart enough and are too narcissistic to grasp cognitive dissonance.

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[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago

Jesus these guys are clowns. The people that vote for them are just... Sad.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 42 points 6 months ago

Marc Elias “there are no house GOP moderates. There are proud MAGA and scared MAGA.”

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

And "maga" is just recycled teabagger, which predates donnie diapers. These guys have been awful for a long time.

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 months ago

Wasting taxpayer money on a pointless revenge plot. Typical wasteful conservative nonsense.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

Well the US really is on a death spiral.

Your country is fucked. Even Brazil handled their corruption better.

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[-] Treczoks@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago

Now all they need is a piece of actual evidence. So far they came up empty-handed.

[-] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

So what is the plan exactly?? Remove Joe Biden and then what? They really think they would be able to beat Kamala Harris AND per pick for VP?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 32 points 6 months ago

They don't have the numbers in the Senate to do that anyway, it's just childish revenge. That and they want to say "Democrats want to vote for impeached president Biden. They're hypocritical communists!" during the election

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't forget all the wasted time that could be used for actual legislation.

Instead we waste taxpayer money for an election flyer bullet point.

Fiscal responsibility my cock.

[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Pfft. Only 1 impeachment?! Glorious Leader Trump had 2 impeachments by his second election!

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This is entirely about removing Trump's biggest weakness, which his impeachments.

This is a nihilistic strategy, identifying words that can harm and systematically destroying the meaning those words. Trump was rightfully impeached for cause, but if Biden can just as easily be impeached with no cause, an impeachment ceases to be an objective badge of shame.

Just like Trump didn't originate "fake news." It was a term used specifically to describe Trump's lying, and Trump didn't fight it, just destroyed its meaning.

They are literally removing our ability to communicate their wrongdoing.

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[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

To quote NOFX's song The Idiots Are Taking Over

There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated

Political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred

Majority rule don't work in mental institutions

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Well, we don't even have majority rule. We have a system skewed to give Republicans more power than their numbers. The House radically over-represents the cons and their extreme right wing agenda. The EC puts in Republicans that the majority did not want.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Joe Biden should declare Jonson's Speakership as a donation to his reelection campaign. Two shutdown fights and a nakedly frivolous impeachment, and that's just January and February of the election year.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

The weak and creepy weirdo Mike Johnson desperately needed some red meat for the unruly bunch he's the supposed "leader" of.

They were getting GRRRR MAD at him for working with Democrats (insert gasping and pearl-clutching here, as the cons view working with Democrats on something even as basic as keeping the government running as simply beyond the pale and worthy of excommunication. Only a total "RINO" and apostate like Liz Cheney would do such a thing!).

So that's probably why we are going to have this bullshit "investigation".

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


House Republicans voted Wednesday to formalize an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden as their investigation reaches a critical juncture and right-wing pressure grows.

The argument from Republican proponents of the effort, according to multiple GOP lawmakers and aides, is that a floor vote will strengthen their legal standing against the White House and fortify their subpoenas to secure key witness testimony.

Potentially bolstering the GOP inquiry: Last week’s tax indictment against Hunter Biden, which overlapped with many of the alleged financial imports and overseas business deals that Republicans have intensely scrutinized with their own probes.

Since McCarthy launched the inquiry in September, the trio of committees leading the investigation have interviewed various officials from the Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service while also obtaining a mountain of documents and new bank records, including from Biden family members.

Even as Republicans issue new subpoenas and schedule more depositions, including with the president’s brother and son, they still have not uncovered credible evidence that backs up their loftiest claims against Biden.

There has only been one hearing related to the inquiry since its launch, where the expert witnesses called by Republicans acknowledged GOP investigators hadn’t yet presented enough evidence to prove the accusations they were leveling.


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