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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by fer0n@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org
 

Adam Mosseri:

Second, threads posted by me and a few members of the Threads team will be available on other fediverse platforms like Mastodon starting this week. This test is a small but meaningful step towards making Threads interoperable with other apps using ActivityPub — we’re committed to doing this so that people can find community and engage with the content most relevant to them, no matter what app they use.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 110 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

And I have moved my mastodon account to an instance who actively defederated Threads. I'm not interested in interacting with anyone on that network.

And I'm fucking sick of the "content relevant for me" thing. I interact with people asking/giving help, discussing and so on. Mindlessly consuming "content" is simply a disease.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

Mindlessly consuming “content” is simply a disease.

Agreed. It's like a lot of other unhealthy addictions.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't get why Mastodon servers feel the need to fully defederate from Threads. Silencing them is much better. It allows your users to follow Threads accounts without people who don't know anyone on that side getting overwhelmed by the global timeline, as Threads is about twelve times bigger than the entire rest of the Fediverse combined.

Nobody is moving from Threads to Mastodon because mastodon.zip decided to defederate all you're doing by blocking them is preventing the users with friends who use Threads from using your site correctly.

Of course some platforms, like Lemmy and Kbin, don't support moderation features like silencing, it makes sense to fully defederate in those cases, but only because of technical restrictions, really.

[–] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many reasons does Meta have to give before distrust is the default?

"Hey, admin, why can't I follow my mom on threads from your instance?"

"Because Meta facilitated genocide in Myanmar."

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While Facebook's recommendation algorithm definitely plays a part here, most of this analysis could have "Facebook " replaced by "the internet" without changing any of the meaning. The same hate speech is also spread across WhatsApp (which caused WhatsApp to put a limit on the amount of times you can forward a message) and every other messenger.

Facebook's automatic hate speech removal system may be pitifully ineffective, at least they have one. Here on the Fediverse, we have a slur filter, just sometimes, and even fewer moderators per user than Facebook has.

And, despite Facebook's role in helping spread hate speech as a large platform and refusing to proactively go after such speech, here's how the rest of your conversation will go:

"Hey, admin, why can't I follow my mom on threads from your instance?"

"Because Meta facilitated genocide in Myanmar."

"Aw, that's bad. Anyway, I'll just create a Threads account I guess, my mom is sharing my niece's baby pictures."

[–] sour@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

why wont threads friends go to mastodon

Same reason why Telegram friends won't go to Signal: they don't care about the platform they use, and you end up being that friend if you ask them to change their habits for you.

Once Threads support federation in both direction, the need to move disappears completely. Why would you move to a server run by volunteers that sometimes goes down when Elon says something stupid, especially if your Mastodon friends can interact with your account like normal. That's ActivityPub working and doing what it's supposed to do.

[–] fer0n@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

It’s great that everyone is able to choose for themselves

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And I have moved my mastodon account to an instance who actively defederated Threads.

Is that pretty easy to do?

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

fairly easy. you can export the list of your followers and followed account, block lists, bookmarks and so on, and import them in the new account. the posts you've made aren't moved, though. https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server/

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

the posts you've made aren't moved, though

That's kind of a fail, and a feature that could be added (with some work).