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As a non-US citizen I'd like to reiterate that you can get rid of this idiocy only by banning guns.
Not interested in American opinion regrading this one, sorry, it's a super simple fact with no discussion worth wasting time for us.
'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
(... from almost 10 years ago now jesus)
Statistically, most Americans agree with much stronger gun controls. Even a significant portion of the conservative block. It's the few holding the rest of us ransom.
Kind of shitty to assume that all Americans have the same opinion, no?
Experience has taught me that unfortunately, while you don't all have the same opinion, most do reject the simple premise of the original comment, for various reasons, whether they're "left" or right.
Just so you've had the experience of meeting one, I am an American who is for banning guns.
Everyone from a country has a the same opinion. That newborn baby in Russia agrees with Putin on everything. There aren't +8 billion humans with their own pov, there are about 190 of us.
I, from the UK, once had a 'conversation' about gun control with an American on Reddit. What brought this about was the day before a 9 year old girl was killed by a stray bullet from a drive-by. One moment she was in her bedroom doing some homework, and the next she was dead.
After a lot of back and forth with him getting more flummoxed and aggressive he then said something like "If she was outside playing like a normal kid then she wouldn't have been killed."
Yep, he blamed her.
That was the time I realised it was a waste of everything talking about it.
people who argue that their right to guns is more important than a persons right to life is inherently moronic, and shouldn't be listened to.
One thing I've learned is that, if you write a comment with reasonable
balance of views and still get attacks, the posters are people without proper trainings on critical debates.
In case of the gun ban, it's even worse because most people never lived in the rest of the world.
I find it frustrating when people make a statement, and then say they aren't interested in hearing a specific group's opinion. It's rude af.
Just because you have an opinion doesnt make it valid.
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You are not from a country, you are giving advice to that country, and you say you have no interest in what people from that country have to say.
I must admit in terms of ability to persuade people to your side this is a rather bold strategy. "Hi I have no stake in the outcome, strong feelings about the outcome, and I don't care what you the person who lives with the outcome thinks. Also you should do what I say".
I genuinely know you are correct. To be honest with you, I don't like what I wrote.
What's still interesting to me, this horrible human, is that I also gave up convincing Americans on guns and yet still can't stop posting. The endless debates on the internet about a topic that we outsiders tend to think has a simple single solution made me write that comment. I couldn't stop myself. Apologies.
He's not wrong. If we want to get rid of the idiocy. If we're willing to live with it, and based on our actions, we apparently are, then we don't need to ban guns.
I didn't comment if they were right or wrong. I commented on how they spoke. You can be right or wrong, persuasive or not.
I find it is easier to convince people of what I believe when I first don't insult them.
From a pro-gun stance, most of the discussions are useless anyway.
Americans are so backwards when it comes to valuing human life. There's no point in engaging them on anything at all, so it's best to block/ban people like Chitak the thundertard.
b b but my sport makes me feel good!
and mountain climbing will only injure me
i want an exciting sport that will hurt others