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[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They ran a shitty corrupt government, tried to conquer eastern Europe, failed, renamed themselves to "Russian Federation", and are now trying to recapture lost states while feeding people into a never ending meat grinder.

[–] senseamidmadness@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how modern Russia is still the USSR. Could you explain?

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

Putin is desperate to restore Russia to its former USSR glory. That's why he wants Ukraine so badly.

[–] Arkham@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I feel like, if the USSR is to blame for modern Russia, then Tsarist Russia shares some of the blame as well

[–] java@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

tried to conquer eastern Europe, failed

How so if it was indeed occupied for years?

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Germany occupied Poland for years. Doesn't make it theirs.

[–] java@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that was never the subject of the discussion. The USSR, and the Russian Empire before it, did successfully conquer Eastern Europe. That's a historical fact. Whether you agree that this conquest made that land rightfully theirs is another topic, in which I have no interest.

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then let's end this discussion here.

[–] java@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To end the discussion, just stop replying lol.

[–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

renamed themselves to "Russian Federation",

By this logic the Roman empire should just be called the Roman republic. The systems of governance might be similar and both be abhorrent, but the USSR isn't the same as the Russian federation

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

That's what they been telling us for years, but I'm not seeing much difference.