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Your logic implies that a hundred cows are killed to source a single burger. That's not how that works. Be vegan, but don't be stupid.
Yeah that's true. Pretty horrific when you picture it.
I think you found the problem there, sport.
I wonder how many mice died for the bun (and forests too)
what they asked is how many died for the bun. not whether you think that line of reasoning is sufficient to discourage veganism.
Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.
so it's not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn't used to make food for people: it's the same land.
i'm so glad you used this. you can find this graph there that shows that almost all the soy we feed to animals is the industrial waste from oil production
sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
if you don't know how the industry works, maybe you shouldn't be the one deciding how it should be run
the vast majority of soy (85%) is pressed for oil.
what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
no, you're not.
your assumption of bad faith is itself bad faith
this is a thought-terminating cliche
like I don't know who earthling ed is