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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is sometimes wrong, though. This is the relevant definition:

A baked food composed of a pastry shell **filled with **fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust

Meaning that a flat pizza wouldn't count (those are toppings, not fillings) but a calzone technically would.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Read further. The page also says the crust can be on the bottom and the filling on top/inside, as well as crust on top, filling underneath, or both (calzone). So a deep dish pizza is a pie, technically.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The page also says the crust can be on the bottom and the filling on top

This is "literally can mean figuratively" level lunacy. If it doesn't have FILLINGS rather than TOPPINGS, it's simply not a pie.

Next you're gonna tell me that a hotdog is a sandwich (please fucking don't!)

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If it's not covered and doesn't have FILLINGS rather than TOPPINGS, it's simply not a pie.

Where does that put key lime pie and lemon meringue pie? Or pumpkin pie and pecan pie? Are they not pies because they're not covered?

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, I may have gotten a bit* carried away with the "covered" requirement, but toppings are still not fillings and it's not a pie if it doesn't have filling(s).

*extremely, ridiculously

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pies don't have to be covered, no. They can have their casing on the bottom.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I understand that. That's why I was asking the person that made the claim to clarify.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't really know what you're referring to at this point.

I'm saying:

  • A regular flat pizza is not a pie. It does not have a casing, and the "filling" is a topping, as you say.
  • A (Chicago-style) deep-dish pizza is a pie (more-so than a pizza in my opinion but whatever) because it has a bottom crust with filling on top (a pie according to Wikipedia). That's not lunacy. It's right there on Wikipedia, with even a link to Chicago-style deep-dish pizza.
  • A calzone is a pie because it has crust both on top and on the bottom (surrounding the filling), as well as filling inside.

This is not "lunacy". It's just reading a definition and interpreting things to fit the definition. 🤷‍♂️ If you think that's lunacy I'd hate to tell you about Pluto. A pie with crust on the bottom is very common. Meat pies, and pastry pies, among many others. Crust on bottom is common, crust on top is common. Crust all around is common... Not lunacy.

I'm going to refrain from talking about hotdogs, because I've yet to look up the definition of a sandwich, but I'd rather not at this point lol.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Researching Chicago style deep dish pizzas, it would seem that I wasn't aware of just HOW deep they are. Yep, that's a pie. I think we're in full agreement, actually!

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Haha yeah they look ridiculously deep. I can't imagine how they wouldn't be kind of soggy with all that filling but I guess it works. Seems to be popular, eh. Would love to try a slice.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I imagine a single or at most two slices would be a meal for an average adult, so maybe I'd actually get full from eating only one completele dish pizza 😂

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I take it you aren't an average adult then 😅

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, I was on Zyprexa once. It completely removed my ability to feel full while I was on it, which in turn made my stomach capacity expand a lot from overeating.

So yeah, takes an abnormal amount of food for me to feel full 😔

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh gosh, that's very unfortunate. Sorry that happened to you, friend, as well whatever the cause was for you to have to take that specific medication. Sounds tough.

Hope you are better and can manage your diet at this point!

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks! It's been very tough to manage since then, but with the help of my GP, I'm dealing with it and things are definitely improving 🙂