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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Man...

If only a nationwide Radio host who is insanely popular with the Black youth invited Biden on air to talk to Black voters and convince them to vote for him.

What's that?

It already happened?

Awesome! Unless Biden said something incredibly stupid, that is going to be a huge help...

Biden:

"You've got more questions, I'll tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or for Trump, then you ain't black."

....

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many elections will the Democrats need to lose before they realize that "I'm not the other guy" isn't some kind of rallying cry that will galvanize the voter base.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If someone like FDR gets elected again, moderates might lose control of the Dem.party for ever.

If Republicans win, that just means they take a break before moderate Dems get to take their turn again

There's a reason the DNC fight progressives but boosted trump in the 2016 primary.

They'll always pick a temp loss of power over a permanent one.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another round of Trump is likely to be a permanent problem. They're done with democracy, and their base is fine with that.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden: "Give it to me straight, team. How was what I said out of touch? And don't give me any malarkey."

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's a very dark humor, but we can't do much else but laugh about it...

I'm definitely worried everytime I hear Biden is reaching out to the youth and/or minorities though.

He isn't doing poorly with them because they don't know who Joe Biden is, he's doing terrible with them because they know who he is.

Biden speaking to them is unlikely to help.

What would help is Biden trying to help them now, telling them he isn't doing anything till next term and expecting them to believe him won't really work.

Even if he doesn't succeed, just putting in a genuine effort even if it fails would go much further than anything he's going to say in a perfect speech. And I don't think anyone expects a perfect speech from Biden. Even though his publicly speaking skills is what made him a front runner in 1988, until the plagiarism stuff came out and he started screaming at journalists about how he's smarter than them.

That was almost 40 years ago, and his public speaking skills have nose dived since then.

To the point his biggest supporters claim he's always been bad at it

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why is something that happened four years ago relevant now

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Because Biden has spent much longer acting like this, and that's why his numbers are so bad...

But you're acting like I'm dragging up ancient history, when multiple articles have been written about this situation in the last week

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/02/biden-charlamagne-tha-god-00132784

Even if Biden doesn't give a fuck about this guy, and apparently neither do his supporters, he's incredibly influential with a demograph Biden is terrible with.

Biden has faced similarly tough recriminations from other political luminaries. But coming from Charlamagne, it hits different. The radio host, 45, claims a loyal audience of 8 million monthly listeners. He is ascendant, having taken on roles guest hosting “The Daily Show,” starting up his own podcasting empire with iHeartRadio and being inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. He’s also reaching the very voters Biden is struggling to draw: young and Black.

And he actually understands the biggest threat to Biden, he's not good at motivating voters

“In 2024, it’s a race between the cowards, the crooks and the couch,” he said, referring to Biden, Trump and the option to stay home.

Charlamagne suspects the couch will win.

Dude is smarter than Biden gives him credit for, because Biden is 80 years old and this guy has a "rap name".