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[–] MudMan@kbin.social 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, leftie Jesus is a bit of a whitewashing itself. If you read the Bible the guy is petty AF half the time, especially with people who aren't entertaining religious solicitors and keep throwing his gang of preaching cultists out of places. I'm cool with calling out the hypocrisy of Christian right-wingers, but let's not pretend Christianity doesn't have a ton of built-in garbage along those lines. I mean, understandably, it's the preachings of some random guy 2000 years ago, so does Plato, but still.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I think biblical Jesus is really strongly anti divorce, for example. Some of the Christian right are also hardcore on that stance, but a lot aren't. Probably because that's hard for them personally.

Matthew 19

19 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

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That's probably where people infer a lot of anti-gay stuff, too.

I don't think jesus' take there is very good, but I don't identify as a Christian n

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Let's not get started on the thrice married and looking for a 3rd, morality police too...

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Thankfully most people don't live their lives by what's laid out in the bible, which is a book of fiction. Of course men wanted to control women and sought to make "laws" to make it difficult for women to leave abusive situations, which is why you find this kind of unsympathetic tripe in the bible.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He killed a tree because it didn't produce fruit as if the tree was deliberately holding out on him. Like you're literally God who literally created all living organisms, surely you understand how trees work and how they will turn off fruit production if conditions aren't right (namely if they don't have enough nutrients for it), and that it's an automatic response which the tree has no conscious control over because you didn't even design them to have a nervous system.

I mean, also the "I love you unconditionally, on the condition that you worship me otherwise I will personally throw you in hell" thing.