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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 45 points 10 months ago (4 children)

His reading comprehension is fine, the guy said

If you have to rile the audience to be funny, you’re not funny. <-- A declarative statement with no gray option

Whereas Mr_Blott is saying that sometimes, it is

The guys even right that a lot of this isn't even new ideas. Mean or even dark humor has been around for centuries.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for having comprehension 😅

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

If you have to rile the audience to be funny, you're not funny.

But there is a "gray option" here. I read this as "you can rile up the audience and be funny, just not if that's the only thing you do", in context with the previous point that this sort of humour is overused and loosing its impact.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the only way you can make pizza is by sticking a frozen one in your oven you can't make pizza; if you choose to use a frozen pizza that doesn't mean you can't make pizza.

You're conflating two subtly distinct concepts. Only being able to do something one way isn't the same as choosing to do something one way. If your only option is to rile people up, you're not funny. That's what these comedians are complaining about; their one joke is to punch down, which is frowned upon.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's just a bad analogy. That's more like if a comedian can only copy someone else's jokes, they're not funny. If you wanted a pizza analogy, it'd be more like if you can only make thick crust pizza, but can't make any other types of pizza's, you can't make pizza.

Which is just not true. You just find an audience who enjoys being constantly given thick crust pizza.

Mean/dark humor isn't an incorrect type of humor. It is a different type of humor. If someone is good at it then they just need to stick with that audience. Is it what you'd consider high class or in good taste? Maybe not, but it's still their humor.

I mean it's not like punching up is any harder than punching down. Just the audience of that comedian is more likely to not be in the group affected by it.