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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 123 points 5 months ago

I hate this relatively new idea that comedy has to be mean. If you have to rile the audience to be funny, you're not funny.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

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I just saw this posted on lemmy a while back. It's so good. lol

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[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

If you're the kind of person that thinks no comedy can be mean, you're helping to destroy comedy

Just my opinion. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Don't hate those that understand centuries upon centuries of schadenfreude is what made us a funny species

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 67 points 5 months ago

Kevin Hart aside (I'll let others talk about what they like or dislike about him) -

I don't know how anyone thinks that the hollywood "elite" are comedy friendly. I don't know any celebrities right now that can take a joke about themselves. Either lighthearted or a good ribbing, I just see every one of them being upset and pouty. Sure they'll laugh at others, but to each one of them they're untouchable when it comes to jokes.

Personally I liked the humor, for me it humanizes them and it's like "Okay let's ground this thing in some reality before we make you feel like you're the most important people on the planet", but of course god forbid they remember they're just like us.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

they should get frankie boyle to do it, and he'd just slag them off for 30 minutes straight

[-] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 56 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Having seen Kevin Hart live, I'm not surprised.

It was incredibly depressing that his openers (his "Solo cup boys") made homophobic jokes. One in particular was about how the comedian would be disappointed if his son was gay because he couldn't take him to the strip club with him.

Sorry that people aren't receptive to shitty, bigoted jokes any more Kevin. Maybe you and Dave Chappelle can get together and make jokes about trans/gay people to empty audiences.

Or in terms that you're more familiar with, "you 'gon learn today!'

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 28 points 5 months ago

One in particular was about how the comedian would be disappointed if his son was gay because he couldn’t take him to the strip club with him.

The premise could have worked if he switched it around and said that he was going to have to go to gay strip club or Chippendale's or something instead of being a complaint about not being able to go to his usual clubs. That would have made it supportive and accepting of his son while also highlighting his personal hangups.

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 21 points 5 months ago

The idea of going to a strip club is repulsive to me, going with my dad is even worse... Wtf kind of joke is that even

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 5 months ago

A joke about taking your adult children to a strip club is funny because of how weird it would be. Hart flubbed it by making his son's sexuality the punchline.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

If your humor is based on punching down then fuck off, life is shitty enough as it is for most people without having a multi millionaire laughing at them.

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[-] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

the comedian would be disappointed if his son was gay because he couldn't take him to the strip club with him.

oh the tragedy

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago

Uh ya might want to look up the term 'hollywood elite', what it refers to, then pick another phrase. 'Overpaid egoists perpetually high on their own farts' is a good one

[-] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 5 months ago
[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago

World dominating government manipulating elder protocol Jews at that!

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[-] UltraGreen@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

It's always terrible comedians like Kevin Hart who complain about "PC Culture" or "being woke". And it's because they are terrible at comedy. They can no longer fall back on just saying something racist or sexist or transphobic "as a joke" instead of actually working on material.

There are a ton of great comics out there, but these guys? No, these guys' time has long since passed.

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[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago

Eh, barely anyone watches these award shows anyway. It's wealthy narcissism voting for other wealthy narcissists.

[-] detinu@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

I don't get it, he should be a perfect host then right?

[-] ghostface@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

My only rebuttal to this, is the whitehouse correspondance dinner. That's the whole point of comedy.

Jeselnik said something to this point when he mentioned the Boston marathon bombing. What's funny about the bombing, nothing. But that's why there comedians who can find humor in the darkest of places.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure Seth Myers caused Trump to run for President tho. Or maybe it was his opening act

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[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

the less I hear about or see kevin hart, the better. Feel free to remove yourself from more media, kevin.

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Jesus, every comedian whines about how they can't make offensive jokes anymore. Just recently watched a comedy special from 2008 where they spend the first 15 minutes doing exactly that while making offensive jokes and getting lots of laughs.

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

The only funny thing I’ve ever seen performed at an awards show was done by will smith

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 10 points 5 months ago

Do you mean committing assault? Or not taking a joke?

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

I mean slapping a motherfucker for being ableist

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Oh look, a bad take from a programming.dev poster

[-] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Its battery, not assault sweaty.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

He took a lame ass joke and made it funny, wdym?

[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I'm not really understanding the article. Does it mention he was asked to host this year and declined? It almost seems like he's putting it out there because

A. He's trying to build controversy so that he's asked and can either publicly decline or "relunctantly" accept and say that he only did it under the condition that he could say whatever he wanted.

Or B. He asked and they turned him down so he's saying he never wanted to anyway.

It all sounds fake. He has all the connections he needs to be able to host.

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 10 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure why anyone watches the Oscars, or cares about them, unless you're somehow involved.

So, whether or not he hosts them.. Whatever.

Get Will smith to co host with Chris Rock, and thats the only time I might consider it.

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

It's Nick Mullen's time to shine

[-] Stanwich@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

No loss here. Take your jokes and go home. Soooooooo many others who would love the chance.

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[-] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I have no jokes and I must slur... no-mouth-must-scream

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