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If Republicans ever quit doin' nazi shit, people will quit pointin' it out.
There's already too many places where disingenuous support for nazi shit is welcome: reddit, facebook, threads, bluesky, truth social, 4chan, twitter, youtube comments, and far too many more.
Not everywhere has to be, and I hope the mods won't be swayed by the constant insufferable whining of people who won't shut up about how unhappy they are that everywhere isn't stormfront.
If people stop moving the goalposts on what "litteral Nazi shit" is, you'd find that most Republicans aren't literal nazis. Are there some? Yes. Do they make up a significant amount? Not eve close.
I'd say cheering when someone suggests eradicating a vulnerable minority is nazi shit. I'd say marching with nazis is nazi shit. I'd say carrying a nazi flag is nazi shit.
Welcoming nazis into your party? That's nazi shit.
Where is this happening? Firstly who is suggesting it, and secondly who is cheering it?
Michael Knowles advanced “eradicating” trans people at CPAC. And the people there cheered.
That’s taken completely out of context and you know it.
It’s not calling for trans people to be eradicated, it’s calling for the current trans ideologies, where if you’re a girl who likes trucks you must be trans and therefore must be rushed on to puberty blockers and get your breast removed, to be eradicated.
No one is calling for trans people to be eradicated as in “killed”. That’s what Nazis did - they literally killed people by the millions.
“Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”. If we wait for them to explicitly express trans-genocide, it will be too late.
No one is suggesting or calling for a genocide. It’s not happening. It’s not going to happen. You’re just fear mongering to try and paint people you don’t like as Nazis.
I swear some of you want an actual genocide so you can go “see I told you!!!”
I call a spade a spade ♠️. Ask a trans person what they think Knowles meant. You won’t. Because you know what they’d say. And you don’t care , because you assert your ignorance as truth.
Yes, that's true.
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If you're splitting hairs about what "eradicate" means, it says a lot about what you're happy to defend.
And why.
I'd say this is a distinction without a difference, since both involve eradication of trans people from public life, but the latter involves eradication of the very idea that trans people exist. That's worse.
You're being disingenuous. Then you move straight into the standard conservative bigoted lies which I'll not quote.
They absolutely are. Don't insult people by expecting them to buy such hogwash.
Trump got 74 million votes. They’re Nazis. They may not know it or admit it, but they are. If you vote for fascism, you are a fascist. Giving people the benefit of the doubt or a second chance is what caused Trump in the first place. It can happen here.
So everyone that voted for trump is a Nazi? Everyone that voted for trump wants the jews and all non blonde hair blue eyed people to be rounded up and killed?
You guys really are killing the meaning of these words. No party is promoting fascism. One party is promoting silencing their opponents though, which is a big element of fascism. Can you guess which one it is? Hint - not who you want it to be.
Trump being elected was a combination of the democrats being so out of touch with the general population that they thought just paying millionaire celebrities to shill for Clinton would resonate with the average joe. They thought that neglecting half the population would work, while also demonizing them. The fact that trump got elected should tell you that the democrats were half the problem at least, because it got to the point that people would rather a terrible meme worthy business man with the worst wig and fake tan in the world be president than the competition.
The majority of people in here are just so completely clueless on how far gone they are in their bias, it's insane.
Umberto Eco. Timothy Snyder. Fascism has been studied. MAGA meets the criteria. You conflated 2016 with 2020. Trump and MAGA couldn’t be classified as fascist in 2016. By 2020 it should have been obvious. 74 million said, “Give me more of that fascism.” The Nazis were fascist, therefore Trump is a Nazi. The people that voted for him, voted for fascism. Therefore, they are fascist. Logic, bro. I don’t like it. I have family that are fascist. I’m not going to wait for them to turn over my gay neighbors before calling them fascist. Learn what it is now, before it’s too late.
What “fascism” are people asking for? Actual examples that meet the definition of fascism please.
In your link, what criteria does "MAGA" meet? (I'll humour you and overlook the fact that "MAGA" is literally just a catchphrase for returning america to being "the (self proclaimed) greatest country on earth").
America has a 2 party system. Democrats and republicans. If you don't like the democrats and their policies and handling of the country, you vote republican. That doesn't mean you're a Nazi, and anyone suggesting it does is just telling people to ignore them and their crazy opinions.
Your logic is "I declare trump a fascist, therefore anyone that votes for him is a nazi". That's terrible, terrible, idiotic logic.
Also not really sure who declared Umberto Eco the expert on Fascism.
Learn to debate. The logic is sound. You just can’t hear it.
Eco literally grew up in Mussolini’s(the original) fascist Italy. He wrote the book on fascism. Literally.
He wrote a book on fascism.
The logic is not sound. The entire "logic" is based on wanting something to be fascism, so calling it fascism, and then using that same terrible "logic" to classify tens of millions of people as a nazi based on nothing other than wanting to call them nazis.
I guess I'll keep waiting for those actual examples that meet the definition of fascism, right? Surely you're going to list them, right?
Your ignorance is boring me. C’mon man. Give me something to convince me. At least give me doubts. The description of fascism is in the links. MAGA meets the criteria. Nazis were fascist. MAGA = Nazi. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. They are never going to declare themselves Fascist or Nazis. Would you?
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So you think it's important to distinguish between "eradicate transgenderism" and "eradicate transgender people". Because the second would be Nazis and the first is just Republicans.
And you really need that subtle difference.
technically the republican party is currently literally fascist, not literally nazi, although some republicans are indeed literal nazis.
lol, you people are beyond reason.
LOL, lemmy is like /pol/ for Democrats.
If you like republicans doing nazi shit, you know where to find supportive communities. I listed a few.