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[–] sixtyshilling@lemmy.world 369 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

This is a technology community, and (whether you like it or not) Twitter being rebranded to X is pretty big news in the world of tech.

Especially with the slipshod way they are doing with it, there is bound to be a lot of articles covering different weird tangential effects from the rush job.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 150 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah I don't like this. Can't we just use our upvotes to decide which news are important?

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I keep downvoting them. But I am apparently alone.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many posts on Twitter is in your feed? Sorting by Hot, I see only two posts on Twitter, not including your post. Same if I sort by New.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even if it is only 1 it is more than it should be.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If that's what you think I suggest you to start looking for filter options, maybe some apps already have them.

[–] SmarfDurden@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’ll be funny to see because he’ll have to block the letter X

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah well I bet it is gonna be called Twitter for a while yet (the best option would be they keep calling it Twitter lol).

[–] DosDude@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, meta is still being called Facebook. So I guess it'll be a while

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well, the app's name still Facebook isn't it? I bet this dumb CEO is planning to change that too.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be a solution. But what if that company has an actual tech news, like release a new open source software or started contributing to a given web standard.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Well, then I guess you should put your priorities on a balance before making any filtering route.

If it helps for something I also get tired of repetitive news (especially because I'm subbed to many tech communities), but I just scroll and hide (Voyager and Summit), so not much of my "time is lose".

[–] jerrimu@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Then maybe this isn’t the community for you.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is an absurd position. I agree there could stand to be fewer posts. I don't need to hear fifteen times that Mastodon has record increases (which would actually qualify as technology news by your standards, wouldn't it?). But I would like to see it once. A limitation to keeping one popular article (as determined by the mods) per discrete news item would be a far better approach.

I'm not interested in hearing about how Elon took over an X Twitter account yet again. I am very interested however in hearing that companies will lose verification on Twitter unless they buy enough ads. That is currently newsworthy.

It's clear that a substantial number of users are interested in hearing about this. It's also clear that a substantial number of users are sick of hearing about this. There should be a compromise to find a middle ground, not either extreme of "as many posts about Twitter as you'd like" nor "no posts about Twitter at all".

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Twitter's been a big deal for a long time. So, to expect nobody to post about it is unreasonable.

[–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah let's have no news at all about one of the largest and most influential tech companies going through massive restructuring! That kind of thing has no place on a tech community

[–] vd1n@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

It's hard not to upvote because fuck Elon. But at the same time its all dumb shit.

It's a lose lose situation.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it works, but I found this post where someone claims to have made a keyword filter. https://sh.itjust.works/post/1715366 I don't think you'll be able to filter out "X" though

[–] MyUnclesSecret@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was like, " Yeah! Downvote the musk posts" Then I proceeded to down vote the top post because it's about Elon Musk.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you really suggesting that we take the low quality Reddit approach to high quality subs like /r/funny?

I suppose this is what happens when the lowest common denominator goes down coupled with ignorance of how the lowest common denominator affects community quality.

Communities lose their niche by catering to the lowest common denominator and become homogeneous with each other. This has been a long-standing phenomena on Reddit, one which I would expect to not be carried over to Lemmy since it's largely a symptom of a user base that has more interest in memes, funnies, and celebrity worship than discussion and real news.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright, how do you decide who is the "lowest common denominator" who shouldn't get to have a say over what is being discussed?

[–] MBM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about the people who stumble across the comm's posts on All but aren't subscribed? On Reddit you could also talk about the original user base from before a sub started hitting r/all but !technology@lemmy.world doesn't really have an 'original' user base.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It does sound reasonable to prioritize subscribed users when counting upvotes, to reflect the interests of that particular community.

But I don't think that will stop people from bringing up any news involving Twitter. The submission and initial momentum likely happens within the community itself.

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[–] MBM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Most people on All don't check what comm a post is from before upvoting. That's why on Reddit all subs that regularly hit r/all are basically the same. I'm fine with the Twitter news here, but upvotes don't work as quality control.

[–] Hypnoctopus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The point is that news about Twitter rebranding is simply not related to technology. This is a technology community. These submissions should not even be posted in the first place to have the opportunity to be voted on.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Twitter being rebranded to X is pretty big news in the world of tech.

Maybe, but we have seen it now. If every fart of Musk needs a new thread, maybe better to make a Musk group.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

reddit used to have r/EnoughMuskSpam lol

[–] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunate how they spam musk themselves

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I never got the gimmick of that sub because it's actively contributing to the problem. Guy lives rent free in their heads and they have to take it out on the rest of us.

[–] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Big news, yes. But not tech related at all. Those Elon news should be on TMZ.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 28 points 1 year ago

Twitter being rebranded to X is pretty big news in the world of tech.

Is it? It doesn't change anything.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

twitter isn't relevant in technological development, it's just a toxic social media site which hasn't changed in any significant way since its inception (technologically speaking)

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you that no one in the tech world is looking at Twitter for advice atm, but to say nothing changed at Twitter in any significant way since it's inception is disingenuous at best. Twitter's rapid growth and adoption led to the development of a number of key technologies needed to run global 24/7 uptime services at scale, just to name one macro example.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok that was then. What innovations have they put forth lately? Let's talk about that. Changing the company name isn't particularly Innovative.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Reread what I said: I agree that nothing major has been introduced by Twitter lately, but to say that they contributed nothing to the tech world since their inception, which is what the user above me was claiming, is disingenuous. Both can be true: Twitter can be a flaming pile of shit now (and it is), and it can also have been a very influential and technologically forward-thinking org at one point in time early on in their inception

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

No, a rebrand is not a true technological news. It is regular news. Same would apply if Pizza company changed it's name. Internal policy changes of a website are not technological news either. Appointing a new director or firing staff, is still are not technological. Sure they its news, but have nothing to do with technology.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is not Tech news that is business news.

What technology was developed, explored, integrated, improved, or otherwise innovated or more broadly applied by this?

Nothing, it does nothing, it's a branding decision, business news, not tech news.

[–] sixtyshilling@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Curious, those criteria you listed out are not present anywhere I can see in the community rules.

Perhaps you should petition the mods to change them if you feel so strongly about it.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we should or else create a new community to focus on those things so I can join that one.

[–] MBM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Many instances have a tech community, I wonder if any of them are like that. !technology@beehaw.org !technology@lemmy.ml !tech@kbin.social !technews@radiation.party

[–] SgtThunderC_nt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

This would be a welcome development, I feel like social media is something you use tech to do, but it's very rarely an interesting conversation about the tech itself.

Like how a grocery store has food but you wouldn't call it a restaurant.

[–] scv@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

The side car says this community is about technology news. I don't think they should list everything it's not, but maybe clarify if news about the tech industry are wanted or not.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What technology was developed, explored, integrated, improved, or otherwise innovated or more broadly applied by this?

This is an interesting standard to apply and I'm curious to see how many posts would actually fit that, especially posts which seem to be about tech. Arguably, 30-60% of the top posts right now don't meet this.

[–] Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this place called technology news, or technology? Asking for a friend

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Neither. It's a rant about "Twitter/Elon/whatever billionaire does something stupid today" community.

As you can see, nothing tech related. Just people related to the tech industry somehow

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

It is definitely very big news, but I guess the amount of articles on that topic is overshadowing the rest of tech news.

Maybe we could consider that news relative to Twitter/X should be on their own community, that users can choose to subscribe, ignore or block?

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Elon must stay rich from living in everyone's heads rent-free..

[–] TheAmishMan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree. I don't use Twitter and I really don't know much about Elon, but when one of the wealthiest people in the world is doing something with a major tech company, Id like to be somewhat informed