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Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) went after former President Trump for his legal woes in an interview on MSNBC Saturday.

“I’ll take the individual who’s 81 over the guy who has 91 felony counts,” Swalwell said, making a reference to President Biden’s age in an interview on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Saturday.

“It’s not about two individuals,” Swalwell continued, speaking about the 2024 election. “It’s about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, we’re gonna win.”

Swalwell’s comments come after Trump was ordered to pay almost $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case and amid increased scrutiny faced by the president on his age and memory in the wake of a special counsel report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. The report noted that Biden had problems with memory and recall.

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[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is a funny take and yes we should vote for Biden if the alternative is an authoritarian. BUT, Biden still is old as fuck and the DNC is once again pushing a candidate that no one wants. Fuck the DNC and the Democrat institution that forced Hilary down our throats and started this mess in the first place. Biden should not be the candidate and will most likely be dead before the next four years are over. Fuck this

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

most likely be dead

Rich people with medical care tend to live a long time, look at Jimmy Carter.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's possible but why roll the dice?

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because he's good, Harris is good. The other guy will take a wrecking ball to the nation's institutions to enrich himself at the expense of his enemies.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Did you even read my original post? Who's this "other guy"? The DNC and Biden didn't even give us a choice lol. I clearly said I'm still voting for Biden over Trump but I also feel that I'm being held hostage and forced to vote for a guy who explicitly said he was going to run for 1 term only.

Since you didn't seem to understand, it's ok to support Democrats while also criticizing bad decisions.

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Speak for yourself I'm happy to have Biden again.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's done a fine job, he just told us he was planning on being a 1 term president and I don't think he'll still be alive 4 years from now. It's silly and selfish just long how I appreciate RBG's career but she screwed everyone by needing to stay in power way too long.

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Senate doesn't confirm the next president for life. The VP is sworn into office if he were to die. I'd be happy to have Harris in the office too.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Lol? So all you got from my comment is that you think that I believe the President and a Supreme Court Justice are the same thing? You're being purposely belligerent and I don't know why.

And if you actually believe that Biden dying while in office isn't a problem then I don't know what to tell you. Your inability to see any grey area is a real issue. Dogmatic politics are bad for everyone.

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What I got from your post was a false equivalence. I'm really tired of people shitting on a legitimately good choice because they aren't getting exactly what they want. Or are Russian trolls, it's hard to tell the difference these days.

The other guy has already said he wants to be a dictator. I'm hostile to people that will get him elected either through direct support, or trying to kill enthusiasm for the better candidate.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

false equivalence

Then you didn't read my post lol. I'm not disputing anything you're saying and I will absolutely be voting for Biden but that doesn't mean we don't deserve better or that I shouldn't be allowed to point that out

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Somehow old is the only bad thing you can say about him. I'm not going to say there aren't other people I'd like as president, but I do think this is a dangerous game. We need unity against the other guy. We need solutions, not shitting on the best situated candidate. I'm sure you don't have one.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Why would I have an alternative? An alternative was never offered or considered even though it was promised. At least in 2016 I got to primary for Bernie. Though the DNC didn't really give a shit that people wanted him over Hillary and that's why we're in this mess in the first place.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The polling is astoundingly clear that you are in a vast minority with that opinion. It's hardly a surprise that someone likes him, but he is not the democratic choice.

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The democratic choice is the one people vote into office.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

The only kind of true choice that exists is informed choice. The establishment of both parties has captured mass media and to a large extent social media. Democracy in this country is a joke.

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is an extreme over-simplification.

[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tinidril's post is an oversimplification, so much so as to be misleading. My post I believe would fall into the technically correct bucket.

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

In an idealized, fictional world where america actually has democracy, sure. We could add frictionless, spherical cows and perfectly rational economic actors to this hypothetical fairyland, too.