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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

This and blazing saddles could not be made today.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Blazing Saddles openly called out racism and made it the butt of almost all of its jokes. I think both it and Airplane could be made today, and would be received well. Why do you think differently?

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Idk maybe the sheer number of racial slurs said by white characters. I don't think that would fly in today's political landscape.

[–] Pat_Riot 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Have you seen any of Quinton Tarantino's films?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

He even did a western where the racism was front-and-center, and the constant stupidity of it all was just hilarious. That doctor's reaction as they ride into town tells you exactly what kind of movie you're in for.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Have you seen the kind of stuff movies get boycotted for?

[–] Pat_Riot 3 points 7 months ago

Truthfully, I don't watch many movies or keep up with Hollywood. I feel like the art of filmmaking died with the invention of CGI. Deadpool kept me in stitches tho. I finally watched it last month. I know white people got all upset about a black Ariel but gave no notice that it was otherwise a bad screenshot of the cartoon. What other bullshit are folks getting all boycotty over?

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't think that openly mocking white people who use racial slurs would fly? How so?

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just think it would be idiotically cancelled for even having that kind of behavior in it in the first place.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Why do you think that would happen? Can you give me some examples of media making fun of racists and getting "canceled" as a result?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Of course not! A studio would take one look at the script and say "hey! These movies already exist!"

[–] GombeenSysadmin@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Now, in all fairness, when did that ever stop the bastards

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No they wouldn't. That logic has not stopped one single, shitty remake and almost all of them have been worse than the originals. So bad we forget they even exist. Robocop, Mummy, Red Dawn, Total Recall come to mind... garbage. I think Road House, Twister, and Mr & Mrs Smith are getting remakes this year, and they don't look good either.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

None of those movies exist. You just made that up! And they definitely never did, and never would remake Point Break. It would be futile and pointless to try to remake such masterpieces of their eras, whose stories really only work in the period they were created.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Hate to tell you this but in case you thought cancel culture was a recent phenomenon: Richard Pryor (the co-star of Blazing Saddles) was arrested for foul-language during his stand-up routine the same year Blazing Saddles came out.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2022-12-12/5-comics-arrested-onstage#:~:text=Richard%20Pryor%2C%201974&text=%E2%80%9CHe%20was%20playing%20a%20huge,released%20on%20a%20%24500%20bond

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While I agree with your point, Richard Pryor was not in blazing saddles.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

He did quite a bit of writing for it though.

[–] boywar3@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Blazing Saddles would be called dated and "done before."

It was originally made as a way to laugh at Westerns, which, up to that point, had dominated the market. A lot of the tropes and plot lines the movie rips on are explicitly there because they were usually in these "safe" Westerns.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Mel Brooks sort of put the fork in Westerns. They were maybe dying anyway, but after Blazing Saddles they had to change pretty significantly.

He also got everyone to laugh at all the little polite racist themes that were super common in Westerns. He hung a pretty big lamp on that stuff. You couldn't do it again, because we'd all just laughed at how stupid it was.

As for people who say it's too offensive for today's audience, idk that they ever realized they were being laughed at, not with.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

They absolutely could. If Dave Chappelle can do 5 hours of shitting on trans people, a Jewish writer can write a scene where a plane is wearing a tallit with a beard.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well no, if someone tried to make those movies today people would say that it's been done.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago

They'd also have to be really quick with filming

[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

They made a CGI Blazing Saddles for kids not that long ago, Mel Brooks was involved too. Paws of Fury (2022) starring Michael Cera and Ricky Gervais. I watched it out of curiosity, it was pretty mid but for a kids movie it wasn't that bad.