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[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Sorry, but this is absolutely a victory for democracy and what little structure our government still has. If the states were to be allowed to remove candidates from the ballot, you could kiss any chance of Democrat candidates showing up on red state ballots goodbye.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Except for the part where they punt to Congress as the sole arbiter of whether Trump engaged in insurrection. They absolutely know Congress won't get off its collective ass to enforce, because it's too broken to even pass a budget.

[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago

That's a problem with Congress. That doesn't change the fact that we should not give Republicans a new route to undermine the voting process.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 38 points 7 months ago

States have always had control over federal elections and candidate qualifications. That's been fundamental to American federalism since the very beginning.

It's not like oath-breaking is the only disqualifier, and states decide those too.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Call me old fashioned, but an outgoing president who falsely claims their challenger stole the election and incites their supporters to storm the capitol building should be barred from holding office again, Democrat or Republican.

[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree. But it's up to Congress to actually do that. That's the branch of government that has failed here.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

How would they do that? Congress can’t actually charge someone with a crime. That’s why they wrote the 14th Amendment which spelled this out.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

States remove candidates routinely. It's their constitutional right. Except with Trump for some reason.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Yup. He's getting special treatment. Again.

[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any examples of that? I'm certainly no expert in this subject, so I'd love to know more.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Abdul Hassan, 2012, Colorado. Disqualified by the state for not being a natural born citizen. Sued and lost. The ensuing opinion authored by then district judge Neil Gorsuch upheld the constitutional right and duty of states to bar ineligible candidates.