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[–] thimantha@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ITT, bunch of people who have never used Sync for Reddit whining about Sync Ultra and the app having ads. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

[–] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The ads through me for a sec, but then I realized this wasn't the Dev or Pro version.

~~I'll end up subscribing at some point, but I do wish there was a one time option like last time. Not really interested in the cloud backups and all that, just the ad free experience.~~

Edit: Spoke too soon. Looks like there wil be a one time option at some point in addition to a version with no ads. Looking forward to it.

[–] ljdawson@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just pushed beta 25 that adds a one time option.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

A wise decision.

See everyone, it's this level of responsiveness and communication that's led many of us to want to pay for this app.

[–] oeightsix@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks mate, your work is deeply appreciated the world over.

[–] envious92@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that work if I already purchased the yearly model? Can I transfer the yearly to the ad-free one time?

[–] ljdawson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Email me your order number and I'll help here

[–] scarrtt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

$115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the "lifetime" option 13 months ago

[–] Friendliestfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's for ultra bruv which includes his own server features

[–] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Still more than triple the price for the same thing

[–] waldyrious@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you've done over the years!

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Awesome πŸ‘

[–] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version.

[–] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no.

[–] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway.

[–] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I used sync for reddit for a decade. No way in hell I'm paying $20 for the ad-free upgrade. Explain how lemmy which is months old and a minute fraction of the size of reddit, should cost me more to browse ad-free than reddit? It's mind boggling that we're in the age where asking $20 for a 3rd party social media app is being defended as reasonable.

[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

you aren't paying for volume of content available, that would only make sense if you were subscribing directly to reddit or lemmy as you would with netflix, disney etc

revenue goes to the app dev, and sync for lemmy and sync for reddit have i would presume, identical development and maintenance costs.

your logic is like saying that fuel should be cheaper for a 1.4l mini than it is for a ferrari

That said, I do think Β£18.99 lifetime just to remove ads is a bit extreme, its certainly not affordable for me. That's more than a year of Ultra without the extra features. I think sweetspot for "pro" edition that has no ads certainly would have been sub Β£10, especially when im gonna be a large volume of users have dns that removes ads anyway and really the "pro" is just a "one time donation" kinda thing

[–] zodlmee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I wasn't seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model.

[–] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My issue with lemmy being young isn't the lack of content, it's that he's selling a "lifetime" option on something that's barely been around long enough to know we'll keep using it/it'll be around in a year.

I completely agree that it should be sub $10.

[–] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhm, then don't pay? No one is forcing you to pay or even use Sync. I don't think it's worth it for me too at this moment to pay that much for an app to browse Lemmy (because in my opinion it's still riding the hype train, it's long term future is still to be determined). So I accept that I will have to see ads.

Sync is an app by a private developer, who has his own rights to set the price for something he produced. He can put the price at 100€ and still no one has the right to whine about it. If you think it's not worth it, then don't buy it. It's not like you need this to survive.

[–] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yah no shit I didn't say I'm starving bc of him. I asked for someone to make it make sense. Which you haven't, instead you went with "wah wah go use something else then" - really constructive conversation, why raise complaints about things that could be better? Why try to push for improvements in something you like/care about, that's what you're arguing for me to do. "Pay for it or shut up", how about I don't pay, and instead voice my opinion on the Internet like the sites designed for.

[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not defending Sync (I don't even use it, I'm more of a Slide/Infinity guy; I'm just here to see how other Reddit app ports are doing), but Lemmy is not "months old". It's been a thing since early 2019, the recent Reddit drama just gave it a massive push bringing its userbase from negligible to tiny.

[–] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Right yah I felt like that was probably the case when I was typing that honestly, that's my bad, I guess I should've said only really started taking off months ago, and is still rather small.

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. It's perfectly fine to use the app and only pay when you feel like it, say you feel when the Fediverse grows to be fun enough. Or alternatively never pay and just use the free version. Or use something like Voyager / wefwef which is a fantastic app in its own right. You have the choice.

  2. $20 really isn't a lot when it's an app you use everyday. If you don't spend enough time on Lemmy then yes, it may not make sense to buy but if you do it's really a no-brainer.

Also I would argue Apple / Google's whole app store pricing model when it first started out really devalued good software. $1.99 for a lifetime support of an app? Come on. $20 is reasonable.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not about the app. It has nothing to do with the app itself to be fair. It's the fact to have ads. Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy.

People are fine to pay for the app. Money isn't the issue either. The dev should not assume Lemmy is a new Reddit. It's different with different spirit and philosophy. This point has to be taken in consideration.

[–] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the beauty of have a multitude of different apps. You choose the one that feels right for you. Much like how you can choose another Lemmy instance.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes, sure, you can choose whatever you want. It doesn't make my opinion wrong. It's not in the philosophy of the fediverse. People can use it with an ads tracked app of they want. I respect it.

It's a hard no for me and I will express it. It could be a hard yes if they will be a one time payment version without free ads base one.

[–] Pillarist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The dev said there already will be. I hope you'll support a hard working, singular dev who puts a lot of work into an app and engages with its users like LJD.

[–] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong."

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory.

[–] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes.

My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it.

[–] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine.

As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

The Dev has just announced he's pushed beta version 25 that adds a one time payment option.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

One time payment update was just pushed out!

[–] faintedheart@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

You can choose whatever app fits you. That is the power of choice. Some of us are really ok with non intrusive ads or paying for the app. He said that one time payment for removing ads will come soon.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy

Says who? I'm just curious who decides what Lemmy's philosophy is. Does that philosophy extend across all instances or only specific ones? Or is it baked into the source code somehow?

Personally I think ads are alright. But that's just my philosophy.

[–] Michal@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen any ads yet. Where are they

[–] clgoh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

After a while, I realized i was not seeing ads because I use adguard DNS.

[–] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am using the VPN (I think DNS too) and I get an empty box between posts saying "sponsored content" or something like that