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Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024
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It's almost like he made a bunch of promises and then the democrats deliberate self-sabotaged so that they wouldn't have to actually fufil them.
What's that, we can't fix the senate because the parliamentarian said so? I guess the filibuster is insurmountable then. It certainly isn't like we can just ignore or replace said parlimentarian.
What's that, rather than using the clear and unambiguous means of forgiving student debt, we're going to use a method that the Republicans can easily block with a lawsuit that goes to their bought-and-paid-for Supreme Court? Guess you're stuck in debtor's hell forever.
Campaign on worker and union rights but then pass laws to force the railroad workers back to work without striking and without any rights.
Republicans are traitors and Democrats are nigh-on useless, and they wonder why voter turnout looks grim.
Of course it’s a conspiracy and not that there was a 50/50 tie in the Senate, which meant you needed 100% support from every Dem Senator, including a guy from a super conservative state who is looking out for his own political future. Obviously if they couldn’t make sweeping changes then it has to be because that’s their master plan, and we shouldn’t bother trying to get an actual solid majority into Congress
If the party would quit finding just enough no votes, people would have no reason to point it out.
You don’t have to read what I wrote, but if you’re going to reply, it would be nice if you did
I did read what you wrote. You dismissed anything short of worship of failure as a conspiracy theory.
Dripping condescension is what centrists do when people point out how much success centrist politicians have had in blocking progressive policy for them.
The person I replied to claimed that not accomplishing sweeping changes was because of intentional self-sabotage on the part of the Democrats. I pointed out that the margins in the Senate were as razor-thin as possible which means that one would expect that it would be extremely hard to get anything passed.
And then your reply was just restating OP’s original assertion without addressing what I pointed out.
Yes. They correctly described what centrist Democrats do no matter how large the majority we give the party. As long as the margin is smaller than the number of centrists, progressive policy is dead in the water.
No, you accused them of being a conspiracy theorist for pointing out what Democrats always fucking do. It's impossible to get anything progressive passed because centrist Democrats caucus with Republicans on progressive issues. If that ever stops being the case, people will stop noticing.
You're being condescending and openly insulting to people who notice an established pattern just because that pattern yields results you like. That's reddit behavior.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again. He is doing (some) good shit, Dems are just shit at PR.
The Union Busting was a bad look, all around. No one can dispute that. It left a (rightfully) bad taste in the mouths of the working class. The Biden Administration publicly showed that it does not support Labor Rights when push came to shove.
But, the Biden Administration did end up putting continuous pressure on the railroads to earn said paid sick days for the rail workers
No one is fucking talking about it though (I myself just learned about it a week ago), because again, Dems are fucking awful at PR. And it's going to hurt them in the election.
I'm starting to truly question whether or not it's on purpose that they're so quiet about certain stuff that they do, especially when it's to their own detriment.
I mean, that's a good point/solid possibility. It is the bare minimum, more should be being done, and they know that blue voters aren't worshippers like the MAGA folk are, so the Dems know we will ask questions/demand answers.
However, selling wins right now, however small, has to do something for the party, right? It's gotta give the voters a little to be...idk...less bleak about. Right?
The fact that he went against the union in public, did some dealings to get concessions, and the news about it being pretty hush hush after the fact makes it seem even worse to me tbh."Don't get any big ideas" energy.
Democrats have zero passion. They always stuck with status quo, so the only reason to vote for them is because they're still susceptible to shame and are willing to eat their own to keep a veneer of respectability. Remember in the US there's a far-right party and a center-right party. The US is dying a very slow, painful death while its population bickers about beer and Barbie.
Some people are downvoting you, but you summed it up exactly as it is.
You aren't even using the right terminology. And don't understand they don't have a solid majority. You're a bit clueless