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Summary:

Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.

The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden's team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden's administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.

However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties' policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party's focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn't motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.

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[–] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 215 points 1 year ago (59 children)

Maybe... Maaaaaayyyyyyybeeeee the Democrats need to nominate someone who is actually worth getting excited about instead of just being not-Trump.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because if voters are excited, they may start voting in primaries...

Every since Obama beat Clinton 15 years ago, party leaders seem more motivated to make sure their pick wins the primary than a Democrat winning the general.

"Moderates" seem ineffictive because they're not trying to just win, they're trying to win by as little as possible. Like a corrupt pro athlete who's not throwing the game, but trying to win by less than the spread.

They know the reason most people vote for moderates like Biden, is if they don't, someone like trump would win. It's just the party leaders would rather trade back and forth than let Dems like FDR win every election for decades.

[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ever since Obama beat Clinton 15 years ago

Jesus I thought you were exaggerating and then I did the math

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think that's bad:

Biden's first presidential primary was 35 years ago...

He was the expected front runner due mainly to his (at the time) exceptional public speaking but got caught plagiarizing speeches, lying about his grades in law school, and even people finding out he cheated while in law school by plagiarising papers.

But everyone forgot about all that because he spent 8 years standing next to Obama. And the only reason he got that job was to make old white people less uncomfortable voting for a Black guy.

[–] Upgrade2754@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a great way to put it. Both parties are funded by dark money interests, one drives us to the right and the other keeps us in place. This is described as the ratchet effect

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Anyone "worth getting excited about" is going to challenge the status quo too much - even nominally - for the DNC to be okay with it. They are conservative in the descriptive sense. "No-one's standard of living will fundamentally change."

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Sorry, the do-something machine is broke. Best we can do is partially fossilized C-Suite moderates.

Well, what if we put RFK Jr beside them, does that make them seem any better?

Well, now you're just being unreasonable.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

Not being trump is enough for me. Sure, I’d love someone better. But I’d vote for a wooden brick if it meant america wouldn’t turn into a dictatorship.

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[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Biden may not be exciting, but he's had a surprising amount of policy victories given the deadlock in congress. And he hasn't tried to burn our democracy to the ground to satisfy his own ego, so that's always a plus.

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[–] starrox@sh.itjust.works 107 points 1 year ago (34 children)

From a non-US standpoint this is rather easy:

You have 2 geriatric options. Option 1 would lead to a dictatorship. Option 2 would lead to the - non-ideal - status quo.

How the fuck do you even have to think about which option would be better???

[–] Thurgo@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The Dems have ran non ideal status quo candidates for so long it becomes fatiguing so people stay home or write in Snoop Dogg.

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago

non-ideal over violent civil war

this is not a tough decision, my friend

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[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (20 children)

fuckin find a decent nominee then

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In 2020 there were double digits dems in the primary...

In 2024 we're expected to believe the only choice is Biden or a Republican.

If you're pissed "there's no other nominee" be mad at the party leaders who aren't allowing a primary. And realize there's 100s of people qualified to run as a Dem

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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I always viewed Biden as the lemon I suck on to cleanse my palette between courses, now they want the lemon to be the whole damn meal.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't run on having people vote for you just to avoid voting in the enemy. You must get people to vote for you because they want you. One day, a broadly populist Reagan-like Republican candidate will re-appear and he will utterly destroy your country.

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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then maybe get a better candidate? I'm pretty sure most sane Americans will vote for anyone not Trump. It's not that hard, just use another candidate.....

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[–] bighooker@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (34 children)

Loyal democrat, I will happily vote for Joe Biden.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they "loyal" because they have no other choice? There's your problem.

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[–] funkless@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

one of the biggest issues, in my humble and also arrogant opinion, is that no political party in any English-speaking country, represents any interests of anyone earning under 7 figures. Maybe even 8 figures, and they have 0 interest or motivation in changing that — despite the lip-service both main parties make for it.

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[–] userdata2@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (11 children)

You'd better believe I'll turn out. I don't care if Biden is sometimes a disaster, I vote D to protect my LGBT friends. Accelerationism only hurts people

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[–] icdmize@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I'm 40+, but youngsters are probably thinking, 'Vote for old white guy #1 or old white guy #2, who cares, neither can relate.' I voted for Joe last time only because Bernie wasn't running. I'm thinking Marianne Williamson this time, though. I don't know if Joe will make it, and I definitely don't want Kamala as president. She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Democrats have done a shit job at selling their victories as well as their vision for the country, as always.

Then come election time they are always wondering why aren't Democratic voters more excited to vote for them.

I am so sick of that same cycle repeating over and over again. Republicans voters are so adamant about getting their people in power that they will break the law and vote twice, and Dem voters aren't excited enough to even show up at the polls.

I also have to add that it's infuriating that the Dems are so splintered of a party that they consider black voters are their most loyal demographic. Nothing against them, but for fucks sakes guys at best black folks only represent 13% of the population. You can't win any elections even if you won every single black vote. They aren't even the largest minority group. Latinos represent just under 20% but many of them support the GOP. Dems need to stop turning their backs on some much larger demographic groups out there. Because they focus on just a few smaller groups, that's why they are always scrounging for votes even in elections that they should have in the bag. It is embarrassing how poorly run the Democratic party is, quite frankly.

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[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

so while I'm sure this is a factor it really has to be pointed out that the media really wants to play shit up to keep the batshit GOP viable. It sells papers (clicks, whatever). The WaPo is bad, but when you look at NYT columns it really skews right in a weird and alarming way

[–] drewsipher@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone who voted Barr-Romney-Johnson-Biden I’m gonna be in the booth pissed I’m voting for Biden again considering the libertarians fully lost the plot and Republicans went full fascist with trump

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God, they really think the problem is a lack of outreach and communication huh?

How about y'all fuckn listen?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are you surprised?

Neoliberals want to run the country like a corporation, and they've been running the party like it was for decades. It's why the most important thing they care about is fundraising.

Whether they do anything or not once elected isn't something they're worried about. They just worry about how to keep getting donations.

So yeah. To them the biggest problem is outreach and communication

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[–] Cornerspace@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not going to turn out for Biden. Turns out Aussies are not allowed to vote in the U.S. elections. 🦘

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

not with that attitude

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[–] nuke@yah.lol 29 points 1 year ago

It's pretty obvious who to vote for considering Republicans are actively attacking our country. Sorry, I don't vote for terrorists.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Well I'll be there, but it's just because I'd vote for a dead cat over anything the GOP will dredge up.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

He was too old the first time, I'm surprised he made it this long. I was under the impression that their plan was to have biden die during his term so kamala became the first woman president.

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[–] cunning_bolt@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats only lose if the Democrats beat themselves. And they seem to be trying to do that.

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[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legalize Cannabis and stop robbing black males of the right to vote.

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[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh look - election season has officially kicked off with the DNC's first attempt at trying to guilt trip people into voting for their shitty candidate.

Expect many MANY more of these in the months to come.

It really takes a special kind of scumbag to decide that the proper strategy is to nominate a dismally corrupt and/or incompetent sack of shit then try to guilt trip people into voting for them and blame the voters if they lose, when they could just nominate a decent candidate and people would willingly and even eagerly vote for them and they'd win easily.

I sometimes wonder what it's like to be that entirely devoid of principles or integrity.

I imagine it involves a lot of alcohol.

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