Remind me what happened on Labor Day again?

Remind me how women got the vote?

How African Americans got the vote?

Who cares if it was longer then 30 years ago, show some respect.

Brainstorming positive changes...

Roe v wade ending

Citizens united

Patriot act

Iraq war

Afghanistan war

Syrian war

Yemeni war

Bombing of Yugoslavia

Complete rejection of coronavirus mitigation

Children in cages

Border wall

Decreasing literacy

Abu ghraib

Guantanamo bay

Sanctions targeting the poor

Growing wealth gap

Anyway

What are these positive changes (over the past 30 years) you libs want to take credit for?

I wonder how all the violent revolutions have gone?

It goes great until the US deploys counter-revolution and sanctions. Or just invades.

Electoralism has a similar problem, every time progress is made the US deploys the Jakarta method to destroy democracy.

The solution is pretty obvious 😏

Numerous countries on this earth that have successfully undergone violent people's revolutions and just about all of them have better quality of life and life expectancy than the US lol

Are the positive changes in the room with us now?

: Stupid commies, don't you realise that violence never achieves anything? Miss me with all that talk of revolutionary collective action; real progressivism is when you vote for nice, intelligent Democrat politicians so that they can bestow upon the American people positive socioeconomic policy changes like NAFTA and the Affordable Care Act.

The irony of saying this as the US is currently committing a genocide is really something

You’re misunderstanding the post imo

It’s not that it’s impossible to make change with non-violence/playing fair…

it’s that making change against something as violent and unfair as the system is, with non-violence and fairness, literally impossible.

The tolerant need not tolerate the intolerant.

Your chances of wining fairly against an opponent who’s allowed to cheat and change the rules of the game decrease the more your opponent wins.

Vote for who you believe in, protest against those you don’t. Hedge those bets, everyone else is.

Calling up the King family to tell them there was no violence in their protests

Dr. King's policy was that nonviolence would achieve the gains for black people in the United States. His major assumption was that if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That's very good. He only made one fallacious assumption: In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

If simply peacefully protesting and voting could cause material change, capitalists would have made sure both were banned

This is a bit right? Almost no change ever in favour of workers was won without the blood and sweat of workers, who had to face horrible violence from the state and many times had to resort to violence themselves. You really think asking nicely and voting ever got us ANYTHING? If it wasn’t the blood of workers in your country it was the blood of workers in another province of the Empire.

Would you personally meet violence directed at you and yours with nonviolence? If so, then are you hoping for mercy or compassion? If you would respond with violence, what makes your violence morally superior to the violence you see in protests?

As an aside, do you think Derek Chauvin would have been arrested if people didn't take to the streets?