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[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 223 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Printers are the text book examples of why device manufacturing shouldn't be left to big companies. You have tracking dots, spyware infestation, subscription for ink/toners, reporting of the cartridge as empty when you still have much left in it, refusal to print when unused color cartridges are empty, intentional bricking if 3rd party cartridges or ink is used, and utterly crappy firmware in general.

Inkjets require precision manufacturing. But assembling it or other types from components should be possible - like how desktops, mechanical keyboards, etc can be. We really need to ditch filthy mass market printers because DIY printers will be much better than anything they offer.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 63 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this measure was requested either by the government or some big three letter agency.

I doubt that, if all printers were manufactured by a government monopoly, you wouldn't have this shit baked in. It would probably be way worse

[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 39 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm not at all asking for a government monopoly on making printers, if that wasn't clear.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Use the 3D printer to make the 2D printer. Finally, we are moving in the right direction.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago

You can tape a pen to your 3d printer to use it as a plotter.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Honestly, yes. I love open source hardware

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's insufferable how people will respond to "We shouldn't let corporations do this" with "OK SO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO IT?!?!"

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's insufferable that the answer is always "build your own." Lemmy assumes that every single person on the planet is an engineer with enough free time to design, build, and troubleshoot every device they own.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's based in rugged hypercapitalist bootstrap thinking. If something is broken just do it yourself! Even though that's never realistic, and even if it were, no one person can or should be expected to do everything.

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 months ago

I do think it shoukd be left up to (potentially big) companies; however, we should put restrictions on e.g. ink cartrige compatibility, just like what the EU is trying for smartphones and messagin right now.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It was requested by the secret service as a countermeasure for counterfitting. More frequently it's been used to "catch other criminals", at least that's what they say.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More frequently it's been used to "catch other criminals"

Germans are used to this already. It's called "Salamitaktik" (pushed piece a piece).

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 8 months ago

I see. Sort of like what the Republicans/fascists are doing with, well, everything.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It helps catch morons copying classified materials.